Erick: What can you tell us about the New Guys?

Crimson · May 14, 2008, 12:48:20 PM

Has anyone heard anything about this lately? I checked dicelessbydesign.com just now and see that there's /nothing/ new on it save for the copyright date has been changed to include 2008.

And... do you think they'll reprint the original edition along with their second edition?

Nihilistic Mind · May 14, 2008, 02:05:42 PM

Quote from: CrimsonAnd... do you think they'll reprint the original edition along with their second edition?

We can only hope so. At this point I'd be happy if it were all that they were doing... A reprint and revival would make recruiting for Amber games much easier...

RPGPundit · May 14, 2008, 05:56:02 PM

Does anyone know either of these guys? Edwin Voskamp or Eric Todd?

If someone does, maybe they could get in touch with them and ask what's going on?

Erick had originally indicated there'd be new stuff on that website by July 2007. We're getting close to a year after that date, and there's still nothing.

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Jason D · May 24, 2008, 05:39:02 PM

I heard from one of the "new guys" and he informed me that things are clear with Erick Wujcik but they still need to get things straightened out with the Zelazny estate through their agent.

Nihilistic Mind · May 26, 2008, 02:15:23 PM

Wow. This stuff takes long... Good to hear though

Thanks for that!

RPGPundit · May 26, 2008, 10:18:18 PM

Yes, well, I can imagine that the Zelazny estate would be particularly complicated when it comes to this sort of thing. One has to wonder at this point whether the issue is that they don't really want an RPG to happen, or if they're trying to demand that the game include material on the heretical moneymaking junk that Zelazny's ex-wife authorised, and that was largely rejected by Amber fandom. This could be tricky for the guys.

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Jason D · May 27, 2008, 02:50:39 PM

There are a million reasons it could take a while (all of these hypothetical):

a) lack of urgency (or higher alternate priorities) on the part of any one or more of the concerned parties
b) the complexity of dealing with the GoO issue
c) lack of funding (lawyers take money)
d) Erick's situation and the emotional issues it might evoke
e) complications arising from the SciFi network's option on the novels*
f) terms being agreed on (it's highly unlikely that RZ's estate will give DbD the same deal Roger gave Erick)

So it could be a number of things slowing things down.

* Not sure if they still have it, as it's been almost four years since they announced it, but I know that they have a knack for complicating matters. With Larry Niven's blessing, Chaosium wanted to do a new edition of Ringworld and had it shot down by SciFi because of the option for a Ringworld miniseries, even to the point of a Known Space RPG being out of the question because of shared traits with the Ringworld IP.

Trevelyan · May 28, 2008, 11:02:45 AM

Quote from: jduralle) complications arising from the SciFi network's option on the novels*

I wish they'd do something with that option if they still have it.

Nihilistic Mind · May 28, 2008, 01:20:46 PM

Yeah, new material or a mini-series/movie, as good or bad as it turns out, will bring a new wave of fans to the RPG. At least that's what I hope this will become at this point.