Erick: What can you tell us about the New Guys?

[gabriel_ss4u]

So sayeths the 'Rule Monger'
I see otha as the argumentative type, not really devil's advocate, more just annoyingly opposite.

[RPGPundit]

The innovations will come in the area of rules.  

The setting information is fixed; there is no room to expand it, and little reason to amplify it.  They might as well pull it whole cloth from the original work.

Instead, we will see a modernization of the system.  Exactly how, I don't know, but it will happen, because otherwise there's no point in putting out a second edition.  Otherwise, a reprint would be in order.

This, I believe, will be enough to infuriate Pundit, since it seems that he believes that the first edition rules are the best of all possible Amber rules.  As such it will be loudly decried, condemned, and repudiated.

Ample reason for the authors not to come within flaming distance of this board.

I know Erick Wujcik well enough to be certain that he would not hand over the rights for Amber to someone who'd fuck up the original rules.

So your pathetic little revenge-porn fantasies are all for nothing.

RPGPundit

[Otha]

I'm willing to let my prediction stand until the book is out there on paper.

Either I'm right, and I'll enjoy that, or I'm wrong, and I'll enjoy THAT.  Win-win.

[newguy]

I found out about Erick Wujcik's health problems, this site & the possibility of a new Amber Diceless  game all at the same time. It's kind of funny (not haha funny, but more like weird ironic sad funny maybe) that some of the best news I've heard all year and the worst were all mixed in together.

I have to tell you all that I'm very, very exited by the news of a new Amber game. Maybe not as excited as I would be about a new source book (Rebma anyone) for the Phage Press game, but still pretty dang excited. Hopefully all the business stuff can be worked out and you all can get down to the important stuff - making a great, fun,new Amber game!

Also I just wanted to thank the fellas over at Diceless by Design for giving a fan update during negotiations like that, I don't think I've ever seen anything like that before. I'm sure a lot of folks out there are keeping their fingers and toes crossed that this all works out!

[RPGPundit]

I found out about Erick Wujcik's health problems, this site & the possibility of a new Amber Diceless  game all at the same time. It's kind of funny (not haha funny, but more like weird ironic sad funny maybe) that some of the best news I've heard all year and the worst were all mixed in together.

I have to tell you all that I'm very, very exited by the news of a new Amber game. Maybe not as excited as I would be about a new source book (Rebma anyone) for the Phage Press game, but still pretty dang excited. Hopefully all the business stuff can be worked out and you all can get down to the important stuff - making a great, fun,new Amber game!

Also I just wanted to thank the fellas over at Diceless by Design for giving a fan update during negotiations like that, I don't think I've ever seen anything like that before. I'm sure a lot of folks out there are keeping their fingers and toes crossed that this all works out!

That's what we all hope. Meanwhile, welcome aboard and feel free to start talking about Amber!

RPGPundit

[Nihilistic Mind]

I know I'm being impatient, but I want to see some development.

Any news I'm missing out on?

[eeach]

LOL this thread resembles that guy that scares girls away because he is so excited that they are actually speaking to him. Now I know why the new series of Batman movies are kept secret as long as possible (my wife reacts the same way for Batman stuff as I do for Amber stuff).

AFAIAC The only things that (marginally) need fixing in ADRPG1 are the Item Creation rules (they need to mesh better/directly with Attributes)and Ranking (needs streamlined and clarified rules on buying up).

I agree that the core game should rely on the Amber novels for setting. But I would like to see expansions and guide books like 'The Courts of Chaos Enumerated' or 'A complete guide to playing ADRPG with Belencourt's crap'.  

Thats my two cents.

[Nihilistic Mind]

LOL this thread resembles that guy that scares girls away because he is so excited that they are actually speaking to him. Now I know why the new series of Batman movies are kept secret as long as possible (my wife reacts the same way for Batman stuff as I do for Amber stuff).

I know, right?
I understand why they would want to keep quiet about their progress. I think most of us would be happy to hear that: we're progressing but not ready to share... sort of thing.

[Uncle Twitchy]

I'd still like a more thorough explanation on how Sorcery works.

[jibbajibba]

I would look on the web, nick the best ideas giving credit where an idea is so good and unique everyone would see where it came from. Stick in some slick pictures (get Brom or Bradstreet to do a full colour set of the Trumps as this would probably sell the book on its own) and market it as the greatest game ever to all the Amber fans and I would do it fast before the 4E D&D haters calm down and buy it anyway thus using up money they could spend on my new most splendid and original game.

But if I was to approach it properly I would make more use of these sort of forums and this one in particular. This is a pretty rare place you have a core of people who love the game and have a wealth of Roleplaying experience and will give constructive critism. I seriously doubt there is a single contributor on this forum that would not willingly and for gratis give up their time and effort to be involved in the second edition. These people have the potential to be your disciples and take The Word of the 2nd edition into the world but piss them off and you just get a lot of sarcastic naysayers who will ground you down.
On that basis if I were DbD I would have got Pundit to set up a permanent discussion link where I would post once a month or whatever and poll for opinions on all the areas there are conflict. Ranks versus points ? can you make elements of it optional and still keep the core concept (The auction and player vs player conflict)? Sorcery? Do we need spell lists ? do we need to define the micro spells more clearly? Martial Arts :-) Who the fuck is Jopin if he can give Corwin a good run at chess surely he can best 4 normal men with a blade as well? Optional Skill system ? yes please
You might get a dozen dfferent answers but a sensible org would still use this resource more wisely.

This is why I suspect DbD have done nothing beyond a few discussions with Erick over the rights. Hope I am wrong but I am a bitter cynic.

[RPGPundit]

I know, right?
I understand why they would want to keep quiet about their progress. I think most of us would be happy to hear that: we're progressing but not ready to share... sort of thing.

The fact that they've said nothing creates the impression (true or not, and I suspect that it is) that thus far they have accomplished nothing.

RPGPundit

[finarvyn]

Sadly, Pundit, I suspect you are correct. I should think that if anything significant was being accomplished the new guys would be out on ADRP boards such as this trying to generate some enthusiasm and see how the "wind" is blowing. No news probably means no action.

[gabriel_ss4u]

I consider myself a pretty patient person, I've checked that web site - (the one with ABSOLUTELY NOTHING on it?), and I have to say, I'm disappointed.
If they want to sell it on the merit of the name alone, that's what they'll get. If they want a loyal following and generated interest, then they should respond, somewhere... to someone.

I'm sure I'll get their book when it comes out, but I won't be in ANY hurry, just like them.

Gabriel

[Uncle Twitchy]

It could very well be that the rights issues are still up in the air.

[Seanchai]

It could very well be that the rights issues are still up in the air.

Crap. Now that Nobilis is getting another chance, I wants me some Amber.

Seanchai