Dworkin

[crafty]

Thinking along the lines of the damage to the Pattern and the resulting mind, is the Pattern just an abstraction of part of Dworkins mind, and there for NOT real at all.  They are tied intrinsically with one another, that much is certain.  So would the Unicorn, which many view as the embodiment of the Pattern thus also be part of Dworkin's mind.  So Oberon is the result of an asexual act.

The question of pet then wouldn't apply, as the Pattern could then be viewed as a fantasy of Dworkins, the same might be able to be said about Suhuy, but the timeline clouds the issue.  There would have to be a succession of dreamers since it would stand to reason that Suhuy isn't as old as Logrus, however I could be wrong here as well.

And now Corwin has done the same thing, makes for some interesting plot possibilities.

[Croaker]

Tricky question.

I had the logrus as a collector or personnalities and memories, being both the persons who asseyed it and what they could have been. A group mind of sorts, but not without its various voices, which explained both its changes and the logrus madness (as asseying the logrus implied being into contact to such an insanity). Suhuy was an extension of this, a kind of avatar, closely tied to the logrus but not yet subsumed by it, which allowed it to best serve as an interface with the Chaosites.

Pattern, otoh, was both similar and different: The brain child of Dworkin and the Unicorn, it shared characteristics of both, and was linked to both as father/avatar types. It gained the memories and knowledge of those asseying it, but not their personnalities.

Corwin's pattern is something new, the product of one mind. Yet a simplification of the process. Nonetheless, it still gains knowledge like the pattern.

[Trevelyan]

I like that idea.

The Logrus then becomes something like a prototype Pattern, built according to the same basic principles but without having all of the bugs worked out.

[crafty]

Tricky question.

I had the logrus as a collector or personnalities and memories, being both the persons who asseyed it and what they could have been. A group mind of sorts, but not without its various voices, which explained both its changes and the logrus madness (as asseying the logrus implied being into contact to such an insanity). Suhuy was an extension of this, a kind of avatar, closely tied to the logrus but not yet subsumed by it, which allowed it to best serve as an interface with the Chaosites.

Pattern, otoh, was both similar and different: The brain child of Dworkin and the Unicorn, it shared characteristics of both, and was linked to both as father/avatar types. It gained the memories and knowledge of those asseying it, but not their personnalities.

Corwin's pattern is something new, the product of one mind. Yet a simplification of the process. Nonetheless, it still gains knowledge like the pattern.

So we have Chaos (Pattern v1.0), Pattern (Pattern v2.0), and Corwin's Pattern (Pattern 78)...  Sounds familure somehow...

[SunBoy]

I see Dworkin as a all-powerful being, the embodiment, or "enmindment", more accurately, of the whole existence, crazed with the imposibility of keeping all that in a mind he chose to limit. He gained somehow a deeper understanding of the Primal Chaos, and became a god by fathering the Pattern, but he does not see it as perfect or finished, or even absolute. He is on a whole different level because he is the one who knew, from the very beggining, that the "absolute reality" wasn't real nor absolute, and nowadays, being a wee bit cuckoo, he probably sees the whole "conflict" as the petty squabbles of the two little children he raised.
On the roleplaying side, I try to portray him as crazy, but with sort of a sinister streak.

[gabriel_ss4u]

all great posts, and I agree w/ the 50/50, but I also had it played that he took a dip over the far side when the Pattern was damaged, he is it, it is him.....
But even mad men have great moments of insight and clearity.

Simply in my FtF's he is usually not around as he is one extremely powerful dude.