RPGPundit Reviews: In Harm's Way: Pigboats


This is a review of the RPG "In Harm's Way: Pigboats", written by Clash Bowley, published by Flying Mice Games.  It is (as usual) a review of the print edition, which is a softcover book, 188 pages long (not counting the index), with a full-color cover and black and white illustrations.






For the sake of transparency I have to note that many years ago now, Clash Bowley and Flying Mice published my very first RPG, ("Forward... to Adventure!", and its supplement "FtA!GN!"); but I honestly do not think that this will have a significant effect on the objectivity of my review.

Pigboats is a game in the IHW series, which all have relatively similar rules; I've reviewed quite a few of these before.  From napoleonic sailing ships to WWI flying aces, to this present game, the IHW series is some of the most carefully-detailed military-themed RPGs ever.  All of them have in common a combination of (more traditional) playing of specific characters with almost wargame-like vehicle combat systems of some kind.  In this case, the theme is of "American Submariners in World War II", specifically in the Pacific theatre of operations.

The game system of Pigboats is essentially similar to every other IHW-series game, so I'll refer you to one of the earlier reviews for more details.

In Pigboats, troupe play is very strongly encouraged.  That is, you will play a number of different PCs, switching between them as the adventure demands. This allows players to be active in different areas of the action, playing officers and enlisted men, taking on a variety of activities.

One of the challenges of this type of rigid military RPG is that you have a chain of command; this is not the type of game where you get to play rebel loners (at least not without very extreme complications) and PCs will be routinely needing to take (and give) orders from (and to) other PCs.  There's the question of who gets to be the commanding officer of the boat; the author presents a few choices: either the Players could vote for it among themselves, or you could have an auction system where players sacrifice points to bid on their rank (which only works if you are using the point-buy system for character generation).

So on that subject of character creation, you can derive attributes in Pigboats either by random rolls or by point buy (I think the former is something that did not appear in all the IHW series, where earlier books in the series pretty much required point-buy, so this is a great innovation).  You can pick your background skills by a template (with template options right out of war movies: like "the cowboy", "the professor", "the farmboy", "the playboy", "the charmer", "the crook", etc.), or use are more detailed "directed" method. After that, there's the standard "Traveller-esque" system of serving terms wherein you gain skills for each term you served. You also may or may not go to college, and you'll have some "avocation" skills representing hobbies, interests, etc.

As in other IHW games, in Pigboats your rank (after the initial process) is determined by how much "Notice" you get.  Notice is an "in-game representation of your superior's opinion of you.  Gain enough notice, and you get a promotion. Commander is the highest rank that's typically found on a sub, so if you get yourself promoted past that to Captain, you are basically promoted off the sub.  Likewise, if there's a situation where there are too many officers of a certain subaltern rank on the sub, one or more of them will get transferred away.  In those situations, their players will have to make new (ensign rank) characters.  Alternately, its possible to play in "wolf pack" mode, where if an executive officer makes command rank, he may move to a new sub (possibly taking some of the other PCs with him), while others remain on the old one; and you then proceed to run adventures on BOTH subs (with players making new characters for whichever sub their current characters aren't on).

Overall, my feeling is that as Bowley has progressed in his work, he's gotten more and more capable at streamlining the character creation process compared to his earlier RPGs. I guess that's one advantage of repeating the same system.

As before, there's a fairly gigantic list of skills, all quite appropriate. Amusingly, Bowley actually addresses this with a two-page essay/guideline called "a digression on skills", where he addresses some of the concerns that come up from people who might complain there are too many skills, and in essence says not to worry about it, as the real cause of that complaint is that usually games with a lot of skills have a lot of exclusivity, exceptions, and special rules about when skills can or should be used.  Instead he advises that GMs shouldn't stress these things and that in Pigboats the GM should play fast and loose with the skills and focus on playability rather than being too anal about it all (note: nowhere does he say "anal", that's my word, not his).

Repeating one of the curious quirks of Bowley's games, the "task resolution" system is actually four different systems, based on the theory that a given GM/group might like one more than another.  There's the "Starnova" system, the "Starzero", "Starperc" and "Starpool" system. All of them, curiously, use the exact same stats from the characters, they just use different die-rolling mechanics:  starperc is a d% roll-under system, starzero is a D6-D6+skill system, starnova is a D6 pool system (where you have to roll over a difficulty number), and starpool is a D20 pool system (where you have to count successes).

On the one hand, the opportunity to present a variety of methods to do task resolution is a kind of perk.  On the other, it means that it takes 30 pages of the 190 page book to cover task-resolution and you'll only end up actually using roughly 25% of those 30 pages.  I'm not entirely sure four whole task resolution systems are really necessary; two might have been enough.  None of them are stunningly innovative, as you might have guessed from the brief descriptions above (not that any are really awful, either).

There's a section on NPCs, with various tables for quick-rolling NPCs' skills, stats, personalities, wealth/status, as well as missions and objects of missions.  These tables, I believe, were cut/pasted from earlier books; in any case, the missions/objects tables seem somewhat out of place.  I'm not too sure how a "prophet" or "refugee" or even a "member of a political cabal" can somehow find their way onto a U.S. submarine.  The "missions" just don't seem to fit the very claustrophobic setting.
There's also quick statblocks for typical NPCs, but as these are for "soldiers & airmen", I think they were probably cut/paste from the "IHW: Aces In Spades" game (the WWI-pilot version of IHW).  I have to say that's a bit sloppy.

I'll note that later on there are a set of optional 'events' that happen in "shore leave", which are new material, and are generated with a deck of playing cards.

Where the book gets back on track is in its section on Submarines.  Like most of the IHW books, there is a sort of game-within-a-game; whether its dealing with ships, airplanes, the logistics of mercenary companies, or now submarines, you get a whole set of very detailed rules to govern the object-theme of the game.  In this case there's a tremendous amount of detail of how the WWII subs are equipped, their methods of things like positioning, how to handle combat, schematics (with modifications as the war progresses), a targeting chart, rules to govern escaping/sea-chases and chances of detection, details on all the different sections of the sub, and the different classes of U.S. subs in operation.  A bit further down you get very wargame-like "vehicle control sheets" which are for each type of sub, with little boxes to mark the different stats for the sub as they change.

Contrary to the earlier tables I mentioned, here we find some new tables, where you can randomly roll which type of sub your party starts in, where their home base is, what's their primary mission (that is to say, in which area of the pacific naval theatre will they be operating) and the types of missions they'll be having (this time realistic missions based on the sort of things subs were actually doing back then, like recon, patrol, rescue, etc.).

Besides the floorplans, we get some nice maps of the different regions of activity.  Also, all the tables have modifications based on what year you are running things in. There are also encounter tables (for ship encounters; things like convoys, small craft, aircraft, naval task forces), with rolls also for the types of ships encountered.  Again this is all adapted by year.  Successful missions earn the sub "mod points" which are used to be assigned improvements to the sub (some improvements happen automatically over the course of the war, of course).

There are likewise detailed lists of what kind of activities generate "notice", various kinds of awards and decorations (with images so you know what they look like), and guns. Plus more details on patrol areas, torpedoes, and lots of other stuff like that.

Finally, we get a sample adventure, 25 pages long, called "Turmoil in Turk".  It's set in 1942 in the Caroline Islands region. There's pregenerated officers, but they're optional. The adventure begins with an optional roleplaying-focused scene in Pearl Harbor. There's some NPCs for the characters to meet and interact with.  They get their mission, which is to patrol and sink ships. There's also a fairly suicidal recon mission to conduct in the Turk islands.
Then we get some information about the Japanese forces in the area, both their ships and their commanders.

The adventure in some ways highlights my issues with Pigboats.  By definition, a theme of any "submarine" setting is claustrophobia, of limited space, of being (as the game itself publicizes in its back cover) "under pressure". As certain war movies have shown, that makes for potentially excellent drama, but I'm not sure if it will make for an excellent RPG campaign unless you have a very specific kind of group. In other IHW games there's more opportunities for interacting in ways different from just the main theme.  In Pigboats, its submarine combat, close-quarter RP with other PCs or NPCs on the sub, the occasional shore leave, and recon missions where you'll mostly be shooting at people.

I think that a certain type of group might love this kind of thing.  I also think that the average group won't, though, not for more than a couple of sessions.

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Thank you again for the excellent review, Pundit! I'm glad it was of some small interest!

-clash

I agree that it would take a special gaming group to enjoy a game in which the vast majority of the game involved interacting with the same group of allied NPCs, but it sounds like Clash has done a fine job of genre emulation.

Great review, Pundit!

Is the submarine info detailed and useful enough to justify the purchase? AKA, is there enough to steal to be useful for a Call of Cthulhu or other horror game?

Quote from: Spinachcat;830769Is the submarine info detailed and useful enough to justify the purchase? AKA, is there enough to steal to be useful for a Call of Cthulhu or other horror game?

Looks like I'll have to answer this Spinachcat! I would think it would be. The game is abstracted, of course, but abstracted from what the process actually was. In the game, you make skill checks against a checklist a page long, which is the process used, but each of those steps represents actions taken by the officers and crew. Not only is there background of all these steps in the main text, there is also a section called Extra Credit, which has stuff like:

What Is My Character
Really Doing When...

I make a periscope Observation check?

Your character is reaching down to grab the handles of the scope as soon as they clear the well. Snapping them down, you put your face into the hood, and rise with the scope in order to see as soon as the lens clears the surface, minimizing exposure time. If this is a nonshooting observation, you twirl all the way around once at the highest setting first, then again lower, then once more at the horizon in order to look for planes and ships before surfacing. If it’s a shooting observation, your assistant will turn the scope to the expected bearing, where the hydrophones or the plot says the target
should be.

Getting the Range

You find the range by splitting the image with a device called the Stadimeter, and bringing the top of one image against the bottom of the other. Then the estimated height of the target is input into the system. This tells you the range by knowing the angle and the opposite side.

This is so you know what each action on the checklist entailed in real life.

Wow Clash! That's some great detail, easily stolen for other RPGs.

BTW, why the title Pigboats?

Quote from: Spinachcat;831015Wow Clash! That's some great detail, easily stolen for other RPGs.

BTW, why the title Pigboats?

I always try to make the mechanics transferable as possible.

Back in the early days of USN submarines, they had no fresh water for showers, or for washing clothes, because they needed it for drinking water, and the temperature in a submerged boat could climb upwards of 130 degrees F, so when the crew came back from a patrol, they were pretty rank. In derision, the surface navy sailors called them "pigboats". By WWII, US Subs - and no other nation's subs - had robust fresh water making equipment, along with air conditioning and washers and driers, making them wonderful for long patrols, along with the best food in the Navy, but the submariners kept the pigboats moniker proudly.

Quote from: Dan Davenport;830735Great review, Pundit!

Thanks. That always means a lot coming from you.

You folks might be interested in the Actual Play of our first playtest campaign, which is available from the Pigboats page. It was some fun and interesting play!

http://www.flyingmice.com/Pigboats-Playtest.pdf

Quote from: flyingmice;830860Looks like I'll have to answer this Spinachcat! I would think it would be. The game is abstracted, of course, but abstracted from what the process actually was. In the game, you make skill checks against a checklist a page long, which is the process used, but each of those steps represents actions taken by the officers and crew. Not only is there background of all these steps in the main text, there is also a section called Extra Credit, which has stuff like:

What Is My Character
Really Doing When...

I make a periscope Observation check?

Your character is reaching down to grab the handles of the scope as soon as they clear the well. Snapping them down, you put your face into the hood, and rise with the scope in order to see as soon as the lens clears the surface, minimizing exposure time. If this is a nonshooting observation, you twirl all the way around once at the highest setting first, then again lower, then once more at the horizon in order to look for planes and ships before surfacing. If it's a shooting observation, your assistant will turn the scope to the expected bearing, where the hydrophones or the plot says the target
should be.

Getting the Range

You find the range by splitting the image with a device called the Stadimeter, and bringing the top of one image against the bottom of the other. Then the estimated height of the target is input into the system. This tells you the range by knowing the angle and the opposite side.

This is so you know what each action on the checklist entailed in real life.

Wow! I really like this concept.

This sort of detail would be great to see for all kinds of games, historical and otherwise.

Thanks, Bren!

-clash

Flyingmice, I really LOVE LOVE LOVE the PDF playtest. That gave me a nice sense of the campaign. Do you have some blow by blow writeups of how the system works in actual play?

How much WW2 info is in your game? AKA, you clearly have a strong sense of the period and locations and real world events and processes. How much of that is present in the game?

There is a niche for this game. I believe WW2 buffs would get into RPGing with games like this.

Of course, that would mean the dreaded marketing!!!

Quote from: Spinachcat;831928Flyingmice, I really LOVE LOVE LOVE the PDF playtest. That gave me a nice sense of the campaign. Do you have some blow by blow writeups of how the system works in actual play?

Thank you, Spinachcat! They were a lot of fun! I have logs of IRC sessions. They were awesome too, but they would need some editing.

QuoteHow much WW2 info is in your game? AKA, you clearly have a strong sense of the period and locations and real world events and processes. How much of that is present in the game?

Not a lot. I have assumed a very light knowledge of the war in the Pacific, and have totally concentrated on what pertains directly to submarines, but there is a lot encoded in the rules. For example advanced bases appear as those areas are taken in the war. and the target sighting rolls are modified as to the type of target as the war progresses. I didn't want to write up what can be quickly learned from Wikipedia.

QuoteThere is a niche for this game. I believe WW2 buffs would get into RPGing with games like this.

Of course, that would mean the dreaded marketing!!!

Aye! There's the rub!

-clash