I mentioned to Tim the other night that I'm seriously considering hacking it for Midnight and/or Ravenloft.  Not sure yet...we'll see.

Quote from: Tommy Brownell;395807I mentioned to Tim the other night that I'm seriously considering hacking it for...Ravenloft.  Not sure yet...we'll see.

This needs to happen.  From what I've read of High Valor it could handle Gothic Horror f'ing brilliantly.  If you do this please share as I'm considering it as well (but right now I'm working on Necessary Evil using Supers! for my group).

Quote from: Kinetic;395931This needs to happen.  From what I've read of High Valor it could handle Gothic Horror f'ing brilliantly.  If you do this please share as I'm considering it as well (but right now I'm working on Necessary Evil using Supers! for my group).

Interesting enough, one of the settings I was writing for its own system--Mourngyre, was meant to be my Ravenloft. A single world, no escape, only one "safe" set of kingdoms to dwell in--and by safe I mean "Monsters can come there and eat you but people TRY and stop it.  Although its mutated a bit over the years. I wonder how to get it back to gothic horror in the classical Vampire of the night sense.

I think the system would work for it--if I stole the Fear Spiral from E.o.N, and made sure I make the magic items and magic right. (Both of which are dangerous to use, and possibly corrupting in the Mourngyre: Kingdoms of Sorrow) setting.


It's not Ravenloft. It's very much its own thing, but written in several pieces because I hated the  Demiplane aspect. (Not a bad idea, but the seed of giving hope like that "This place can be escaped!" makes for a drawback for a horror world.)

I don't mind confusing sense altering mists.

Ravenloft, to me, was never about the hope that you could somehow get out and I've never had a character that escaped, but I view that chance that you can get free as kind of a false hope.  It was always the feel of the setting that struck home and I had one DM who merged it seamlessly with the game he was running, which started out in the Forgotten Realms.  We had no idea that we were in Ravenloft at first, and he definitely worked the horror aspect of the game in without cramming the demiplane aspects (no plane hopping), the mists or the hopelessness (we always felt like we could make a difference, even if we couldn't) down our throats.

I loved the novels, especially I, Strahd and Vampire of the Mists, because both went to show how the land wouldn't let Strahd die.  That's something that I think got lost with a lot of people who were running the setting as soon as they saw Strahd's stat block, and Castle Ravenloft should never have turned into a standard dungeon crawl (again, my opinion).  That was where a lot of the flavor ended up getting lost and I think it was a case of shoehorning the setting to meet the system rather than changing the system to meet the setting.

What I was thinking of converting is Masque of the Red Death.  This book just seems to be begging to do some dark fantasy, gothic horror stuff and that one seems like a good fit.  Since you mentioned it, are you now planning on putting out the Mourngyre setting?  If so you've sold one copy already

Quote from: Kinetic;396154What I was thinking of converting is Masque of the Red Death.  This book just seems to be begging to do some dark fantasy, gothic horror stuff and that one seems like a good fit.  Since you mentioned it, are you now planning on putting out the Mourngyre setting?  If so you've sold one copy already

I loved Mask of the Red Death, sadly my boxed set is long gone. Or I'd use it.

I admit I came to Ravenloft via the original dungeon crawl module--but it oozed flavor. It was also ingeniously done, the sequel I heard wasn't as good. (Ravneloft 2) but I loved the original.

Tell you what. Let me email you some of my current notes on Mourngyre, and you tear me where I can improve its Gothic-ness?