If this placed used Xenforo I could like this without having to post.

Quote from: Mistwell on March 03, 2021, 04:51:29 PM
In my very first job, I worked security at a Sears (in the 80s). One of our cash register employees went insane. That's not a phrase I am using lightly - she went nuts. She was complaining to security that we were aiming invisible lasers at her head to read her thoughts, and making her hear voices.

Back then, Sears had no decent HR department to deal with this sort of thing, or at least my location didn't. In security we all wanted her gone because we thought she was gong to say something like that to customers, and was a total lose canon.

But we also knew she was harmless, physically speaking. She wouldn't hurt a fly. She just had a serious mental disease.

So one day she said something which was sexually harassing in nature to me, yelling at me something like "You know you want a piece of this ass. That's why you keep spying on me, because you want a piece of this ass. Well come on! You're a little young for me but I'll fuck you."

It was laughable, and I was not intimidated by it at all. But believe it or not, that alone was STILL probably not enough to get her fired at the time from Sears. Because sexual harassment against a man was not something they knew how to deal with.

But that was the opportunity to get rid of her for the department. So, when I reported it I told HR I felt afraid and was concerned she might attack me or others.

And those were the magic words, the next day she was put on indefinite leave.

I just want to point out that we now live in a world of weaponized high school rumors, and had the situation you described happened today she could have caused considerable harm to everyone around her.

Quote from: GnomeWorks on March 08, 2021, 07:33:56 PM
I think I can safely say that if all parties involved spontaneously combusted, I would break out the marshmallows, and that little of value - if anything - would be lost.

+1

It's like watching a black widow and a scorpion fight to the death.  It doesn't matter who wins, you just want to drop a brick on the whole affair.

I have no love for Zak S, but I hope he fucking bankrupts Gencon and every person involved.

QuoteIt's like watching a black widow and a scorpion fight to the death.  It doesn't matter who wins, you just want to drop a brick on the whole affair.

That's just nasty entomophoby - poisonous arthropodes are cool.

Quote from: Wicked Woodpecker of West on March 10, 2021, 08:09:44 PM

QuoteIt's like watching a black widow and a scorpion fight to the death.  It doesn't matter who wins, you just want to drop a brick on the whole affair.

That's just nasty entomophoby - poisonous arthropodes are cool.

They are cool, but as someone who's had the misfortune to get tagged by both of them I'd rather admire them from a hell of a distance.

Quote from: RPGPundit on March 10, 2021, 06:54:32 PM
I have no love for Zak S, but I hope he fucking bankrupts Gencon and every person involved.

Is this generalized disgust for the wokeness infesting the hobby, or based on something specific/personal?

(I'm not disagreeing in the slightest. Just curious is all.)

Quote from: Wicked Woodpecker of West on March 10, 2021, 08:09:44 PM

QuoteIt's like watching a black widow and a scorpion fight to the death.  It doesn't matter who wins, you just want to drop a brick on the whole affair.

That's just nasty entomophoby - poisonous arthropodes are cool.

I figured I should post before that spider gets canceled. ;-)

Quote from: Wicked Woodpecker of West on March 10, 2021, 08:09:44 PM

QuoteIt's like watching a black widow and a scorpion fight to the death.  It doesn't matter who wins, you just want to drop a brick on the whole affair.

That's just nasty entomophoby - poisonous arthropodes are cool.

I respect that!  I'm a firm "cup and release" spider person.

But black widows get insta-smashed.  There's some regret, yes, but insta-smash.

The main complaint is defamation. GenCon said things that aren't true, so they're getting sued.

Contrary to popular belief or assumption, none of my lawyers (even when asked) have said "Shut the fuck up"--my story about the harassment I've dealt with has been consistent all along on every platform, the legal process is going to take a long time, and I don't have anything to hide. So I don't really have a reason to be quiet.

As for all the reasons online legal geniuses have come up with for why they think I'll lose: Guys, we've been on these cases for over two years at this point. That thing you thought of that supposedly torpedoes my case? We thought of that. Like on the first week. You sue a company the size of GenCon you kinda review the pitfalls first.

A lot of people who talk online are not really invested in whether what they say is true--and if they say something and it turns out to be bullshit they;re like "I don't care, I'm an anonymous IT guy in Skokie". But if you do care: ask a lawyer, maybe even one licensed in Washington, before typing things.

Quote from: Zak S on March 11, 2021, 08:10:48 PM
The main complaint is defamation. GenCon said things that aren't true, so they're getting sued.

Contrary to popular belief or assumption, none of my lawyers (even when asked) have said "Shut the fuck up"--my story about the harassment I've dealt with has been consistent all along on every platform, the legal process is going to take a long time, and I don't have anything to hide. So I don't really have a reason to be quiet.

As for all the reasons online legal geniuses have come up with for why they think I'll lose: Guys, we've been on these cases for over two years at this point. That thing you thought of that supposedly torpedoes my case? We thought of that. Like on the first week. You sue a company the size of GenCon you kinda review the pitfalls first.

A lot of people who talk online are not really invested in whether what they say is true--and if they say something and it turns out to be bullshit they;re like "I don't care, I'm an anonymous IT guy in Skokie". But if you do care: ask a lawyer, maybe even one licensed in Washington, before typing things.

Speaking as someone who is not a lawyer but witnessed the unintentional hilarity of several people who tried to argue their case in the court of public opinion: when the legal actions start, the time for shit-talking is done. I've always held the opinion that people who try to run their gobs on Twatter about their legal fight are fools. Let the legal motions do the talking. And then teabag them viciously when you win.

Murum aries attigit.

since people on the RPG Internet have other problems I also have to deal with that's not actually a rational strategy.

Also:I'll probably be in court until I die in one case or another, so that's also another reason it's not viable to just not fact-check.

Quote from: KingCheops on March 03, 2021, 10:05:27 AMPersonally I think it'd be highly amusing for a Libertarian minded Con to exist and expect grown ups to have a "sticks and stones" attitude.

That was pretty much every con about 20 years ago. Most certainly 30 years ago.

Quote from: Zak S on March 11, 2021, 08:10:48 PM
The main complaint is defamation. GenCon said things that aren't true, so they're getting sued.

Good. Kick their teeth through their assholes.

Quote from: Zak S on March 11, 2021, 09:43:58 PM
since people on the RPG Internet don't consider court results meaningful information that's not actually a rational strategy.

Also:I'll probably be in court until I die in one case or another, so that's also another reason it's not viable to just not fact-check.

That's their problem, not yours. Unless, of course, they want to join the lawsuit as a defendant.

Focus on winning.