Quote from: Christopher Brady;1051511It's 'wrong' only in so much as they're effectively whoring themselves, not showing off any real skill at costume making.

And that's wrong because?

Quote from: soltakss;1051513And that's wrong because?

I don't have any problem with ladies who want to throw on the skimpy cosplay outfits and dress up for the attention. But let's call a spade a spade as I mentioned earlier. Don't lie about it. Don't say you're only doing it for the "art". You're doing it, because it's furthering your career and self esteem. Nothing wrong with that, just be honest about it.

Sargon breaks down the whole thing in 6 minutes if you have the time. Specific example given at the 3:35 mark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ale7CrTIloI

Quote from: Christopher Brady;1051511It's 'wrong' only in so much as they're effectively whoring themselves, not showing off any real skill at costume making.

What? Who cares how she makes her money... Fair play to her for putting herself through college. It's not as if she's on a street corner dealing heroin or something.

There are a ton of thirsty geeks who will stab themselves in the eye socket if they thought a woman would smille at them for it.

There's nothing wrong with a woman trolling for sex-based attention. The problem is that if anyone points it out for what it is, those thirsty geeks will lose their motherfucking shit as their illusion is shattered.
So, maybe there is a problem with it, but it's not the sexy cosplay itself, but the reactions to it. Hell, I almost sound like a sex negative feminist.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1051522those thirsty geeks will lose their motherfucking shit as their illusion is shattered.

Ha ha... Brilliant.

To be honest, I can't believe people would actually give some chic (or any cosplayer) cash through Patreon. They obviously have way too much free time and money. But if she can find dummies to hand over the cash, then you go girl!

Quote from: S'mon;1051486Given the amount of effort involved in many of those costumes I wouldn't be surprised if many got both a psycho-sexual AND a pecuniary thrill from the activity.

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Thank you for the clarification!  Here I 'd been thinking all these years that it was a cynical marketing ploy to sell our weird and inaccessible products to unsuspecting gamers.

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Thank you for the clarification!  Here I 'd been thinking all these years that it was a cynical marketing ploy to sell our weird and inaccessible products to unsuspecting gamers.

Sadly enough, those bare knees are probably serving someone's fetish.

Regarding "say shit, get hit." Does this assume that the righteous will have the strength of ten because its heart is pure? Because that true at all, except maybe on the internet. Lots of no-good bastards are quite handy in a fight. And "say shit, get hit" won't fly in court, either. So, it's just something people say.

Quote from: Doom;1051467As moderately credible as I find the story, I'm still withholding judgement that even happened.

If it didn't happen, don't you think the guy accused of making the attack would have said so by now? His Yelp is devastated. His Trip Advisor is devastated. His recommendations as a person who performs weddings has been trashed. He shut his Twitter down. Several national papers have now covered it. Naw man, if this simply didn't happen he'd have issued a statement to that effect by now.

Combined with 5 witnesses and a broken window and the bar also not issuing any denial that it happened...his own twitter inviting people to fight him at GenCon...he own Twitter being informed that this guy was going to be there...the victim clearly not knowing who it was that attacked him at first...and it's obvious it did happen.

Did it happen exactly the way the victim claims? We don't know. But, that fight happened on some level for sure.

Quote from: Xyxox;1051468Massive pile of garbage attacks huge douchenozzle leading to an increase of hits on said douchenozzle's YouTube channel.

Pretty much sums up everything to do with this, time to move along.

Hey Xyxox, nice to see you around man. Hope you're well.

Quote from: hedgehobbit;1051460Does WotC own Gen Con? I thought that Gen Con was owned and operated by a private group headed by Peter Atkinson.

Could be? Thought though that ended some years ago and it was WOTCs thing now? If its not a WOTC thing then replace my above WOTC statement with "GenCon or whomever." \

Quote from: Doom;1051467As moderately credible as I find the story, I'm still withholding judgement that even happened.

Unfortunately the attacker is/was apparently bragging about it online so yeah it did happen. Up till that point it was still a little nebulous as some werent exactly sure who the attacker was. Apparently he was an unknown to the victim till a witness IDed him. And even then it was a maybee thing.

Quote from: Orphan81;1051518I don't have any problem with ladies who want to throw on the skimpy cosplay outfits and dress up for the attention. But let's call a spade a spade as I mentioned earlier. Don't lie about it. Don't say you're only doing it for the "art". You're doing it, because it's furthering your career and self esteem. Nothing wrong with that, just be honest about it.

Sargon breaks down the whole thing in 6 minutes if you have the time. Specific example given at the 3:35 mark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ale7CrTIloI

Um. No. Alot of people dress up in a certain way for the hell of it. For fun. You know. Like how alot of people play RPGs. For fun. And they can and do drop alot of money into these things for the same reason. For fun. I've known alot of costumers that dropped upwards of 5k on their costume. Others can get those amazing looking costumes from about 20$ worth of material and some godlike crafting skills.

Some cosplayers just like a character and happen to have a build that fits. Some costumes are skimpy, some arent. Depends on the character. "Slut Shaming" the ones for daring to show some skin is just another form of SJWing and Prude Patrolling.

Back on topic apparently the editor of the Nerdist is backing the attacker and calling for more attacks? W-T-F???

Quote from: Omega;1051540Unfortunately the attacker is/was apparently bragging about it online so yeah it did happen. Up till that point it was still a little nebulous as some werent exactly sure who the attacker was. Apparently he was an unknown to the victim till a witness IDed him. And even then it was a maybee thing.

Thanks for the most relevant clarification. Now I have serious issues with GenCon's response.

Quote from: waltshumate;1051482Unless of course the racist bile is about white people especially white males, then it is perfectly ok and encouraged. #killwhitemen

Let me know when en masse lynching of white men because they're white is a thing...

Quote from: Orphan81;1051490A spade is a spade, just as a thot is a thot. Just as pathetic internet tough guys like you, will always be pathetic internet tough guys.

Quote from: WillInNewHaven;1051530Regarding "say shit, get hit." Does this assume that the righteous will have the strength of ten because its heart is pure? Because that true at all, except maybe on the internet. Lots of no-good bastards are quite handy in a fight. And "say shit, get hit" won't fly in court, either. So, it's just something people say.

I live what I say man. I've been in enough trouble and fights (some of them pretty bad) growing up that if I didn't make a change much earlier in my life, I probably never would have gotten into RPGs when I got into em' because I never would have gotten to uni. Some of the worst were when I stood up for others or against racism because I was stupid enough at the time to think it standing up for others who can't fight for themselves or against racist cunts is a good idea.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1051500The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem. We're here for you, man.

What's really crazy is the amount of people I've known over time who are on extreme ends of the spectrum: an actual celibate (a guy I knew who was becoming a catholic priest), bdsm enthusiasts, a watersports chick, a grindr enthusiast (he was really looking for a boyfriend, happy he found one!), even at my last workplace a guy who was abstaining from sex because he was doing a spritual clense or some shit.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1051522Hell, I almost sound like a sex negative feminist.

Do you? That sounds pretty sex positive to me -- it's almost as though the problem isn't with women but with how men are taught to VIEW women perhaps?

Quote from: Omega;1051541Back on topic apparently the editor of the Nerdist is backing the attacker and calling for more attacks? W-T-F???

What. The. Actual. Fuck.