Quote from: Razor 007;1088775A beautiful ending to a story like this, would be:

SJW punches dude they don't like.  Then dude they don't like, beats their ass good.

Happy, happy, happy!!!  Haha!!!

Nope. Its actually better to not fight back. That way if the attacker tries to claim you attacked then the cops will look at both and have a darn good idea who's who. Saved my dad once.

Quote from: Bradford C. Walker;1088771Hambly got Loter to publicly retract the slandering of Hambly as a Nazi and apologize for the assault. That, in SJW Land, is a Big Fucking Deal. Loter admitted he was wrong, and to SJWs that is tantamount to saying that God made a mistake. It's a violation of the Narrative, and that fucks with their brainmeats, which is the win here. Mild as it may seem, this proves that Lawfare works as a remedy to SJW bullshit.

Easily explained away as a guy without crowdfunding being unwilling to risk court.  This isn't likely to change anyone's mind.

Meh. I don't see the win here. The scumbag committed assault and the cops let it go, then the civil lawsuit results in a YouTube retraction. I doubt the SJWs are going to view this as a loss. Their hero punched "the Nazi", got away with it, but had to make an apology video we all know is fake.

To be fair the only part of the settlement we know of is the apology part which I believe was mentioned as being part of the settelment so possibly more happend behind the scenes also the attacker lost his job so wouldent say he came close to getting away scott free.

For many respectable people, an arrest record, or even a report like this, implicating them in a crime, may be seen as punishment. For scum like Loter, he probably sees it as a badge of honor. I'm not all that respectable myself.

Quote from: Razor 007;1088775A beautiful ending to a story like this, would be:

SJW punches dude they don't like.  Then dude they don't like, beats their ass good.

Happy, happy, happy!!!  Haha!!!

A better ending is the SJW punches somebody and gets shot.

Quote from: Lurtch;1088826A better ending is the SJW punches somebody and gets shot.

Who does that kind if idiocy really benefit? I get that you don't like the other side, but advocating for escalating violence is wrong.

Quote from: HappyDaze;1088872Who does that kind if idiocy really benefit? I get that you don't like the other side, but advocating for escalating violence is wrong.

Ending an assailant's assault is the ultimate deescalation of violence.  The benefit?  The assailant isn't around to assault someone else.

Quote from: kythri;1088874Ending an assailant's assault is the ultimate deescalation of violence.  The benefit?  The assailant isn't around to assault someone else.

There are better ways. In the example that this stems from, no significant injuries were suffered. Are you seriously suggesting it would have been better to kill the asshole that threw punches?

Seriously?  Yeah.  The world is not better off for the continued existence of Matt Loter, or any other thug who would violently assault someone like that piece of shit did.

The world would be better off if more thugs were ended, such that tales of their demise serve as a deterrent to further thuggery.

Stop defending pieces of shit like Loter.

I got into fights as a teen, and my dad slapped me in the head one day to remind me that the wrong person might have a gun. Even if I didn't start the fight, its always possible the other person might end the fight with a bullet. You never know who's packing and ready to rock.

As for shooting violent SJWs, I would have vociferously denounced that a few years ago, but today, its pretty clear that political violence is the future of the culture war in the Western world. The MSM in the USA and the UK cheer on violence as peachy keen when the Left does it, including having political violence celebrated on TV shows, so we are at a moment when the mainstreaming of attacking people who disagree with you is defined as virtuous and heroic.

It's not rocket science to see where this trend leads.

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Quote from: Spinachcat;1088879I got into fights as a teen, and my dad slapped me in the head one day to remind me that the wrong person might have a gun. Even if I didn't start the fight, its always possible the other person might end the fight with a bullet. You never know who's packing and ready to rock.

As for shooting violent SJWs, I would have vociferously denounced that a few years ago, but today, its pretty clear that political violence is the future of the culture war in the Western world. The MSM in the USA and the UK cheer on violence as peachy keen when the Left does it, including having political violence celebrated on TV shows, so we are at a moment when the mainstreaming of attacking people who disagree with you is defined as virtuous and heroic.

It's not rocket science to see where this trend leads.

Greetings!

I agree, Spinachcat. Being now in the *adult* world, you don't have to be involved with an SJW to potentially get blasted by an opponent. Big city, the country, the ghetto--it doesn't matter. When someone threatens violence, you can stand the fuck by. Some guy tried to rob a convenience store. A woman customer pulled a pistol from her purse and shot the fucker dead right there on the spot. Some jackass assaulted a man at a bar. The man that was beaten down went outside to his truck, and returned minutes later and unloaded a .45 against his attacker, killing him instantly. Some punk decided to attack a man wearing a MAGA hat in a parking lot. The man wearing the MAGA hat drew a fucking sword, and stabbed the man that attacked him, and put him in the hospital in critical condition.

Of course, a story I especially enjoy--a Marine was walking along the street with his girlfriend, in some neighborhood in, I think Florida. FIVE thugs approached the Marine and his girl, one of the thugs being armed with a pistol, and another had a knife. The young Marine disarmed the man with the pistol, and proceeded to shoot and kill three of the thugs right there on the spot, and critically injured a fourth thug. The fifth thug ran for his life, and was caught a short time later and arrested by local police.

Getting stupid and thinking you have a big dick with other adult men can rapidly prove to be fatal to you, in many circumstances, with many different men. Loter is lucky he attacked a garden-variety You-Tube Geek. I know people that would have pulled a .45 immediately and shot the fucker down, just like that.

In such circumstances, how do you know such an attacker *isn't* armed? If you grapple with such a thug, you can't be certain of being victorious. If the thug gets a lucky shot in you, stunning you and sending you to the ground helplessly, what do you think might happen then? Stomping you to jello, a bottle to the face, let alone drawing a knife or a firearm, are all possibilities. All of which brings concern that it can be entirely far more advantageous to be armed, and simply kill such a thug, ending the confrontation immediately, and in your favour. Many states have lethal force laws supporting precisely such a response against attack. In the event of some states that do not have such supportive laws, at the end of the day the armed citizen is alive and victorious, while the thug is fucking dead.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: Spinachcat;1088879It's not rocket science to see where this trend leads.

Lessons only last when people believe there are actually consequences.

Change the threat matrix (no jail time for assault on unsympathetic people) and you change the lesson.  Because it legitimately no longer applies in its original form.

Humans don't have an intrinsic moral nature when it comes to dealing with your opposition.  To your own, yes, you have an intrinsic moral nature when it comes to that which you see as like you; that you value; that you love.  But not to anyone you other.  

Once it's clear that preferred option A and preferred option B are absolutely 100% mutually incompatible, there is no compromise which isn't empty.  At that point, eventually, there must be one option wholly discarded by some means.

The only thing more intolerable than someone completely losing, is to never allow a victor's peace to occur.

Quote from: HappyDaze;1088872Who does that kind if idiocy really benefit? I get that you don't like the other side, but advocating for escalating violence is wrong.

I'm not calling for escalating violence. I'm calling to ending violence. If people think punching Nazis is great and every person they don't like is a Nazi, I support protecting myself and my family from thugs.