I am terribly sorry, but I keep imagining this as some Command and Conquer kind of game where instead of tiberium, the rival factions' harvesters fight over, uh, human resources. :hatsoff:

Quote from: FrankTrollman;422356First off, what is Cthulhutech? It's a Roleplaying Game made by WildFire. Currently they are signed with Sandstorm, last year they were signed with InMediaRes, and the year before they were trying to print and distribute their books on their own. They signed with IMR because it turns out they don't know how to get books bound properly, and they signed with Sandstorm because they had to drag IMR through a six month court case to get the money for the books that IMR sold on their behalf.

We were with Mongoose Publishing initially, and they are the ones who had problems binding the books. Then we went to Catalyst Game Labs/In Media Res, with the resulting law suit. We are now with Sandstorm, who has brought everything back into print as well as put out three new products since August.

Matthew Grau
Creator of CthulhuTech & Framewerk
WildFire LLC

Quote from: eldritchcat;422814We were with Mongoose Publishing initially, and they are the ones who had problems binding the books. Then we went to Catalyst Game Labs/In Media Res, with the resulting law suit. We are now with Sandstorm, who has brought everything back into print as well as put out three new products since August.

Run! Run away!

Seanchai

Quote from: Spinachcat;422494Chaosium Mythos =/= HPL Mythos.

Chaosium has not only created images based on HPL's own descriptions, but also got rights from many Mythos authors to their creations....and many people aren't aware than only a fraction of the current CoC mythos family were actually created by HPL.    

YOU are 100% able to do anything with HPL's original writings, but your images and interpretations should not be identical to Chaosium's or anyone else.  That's where there could be an issue.

BTW, in regards to Rape in RPGs....where do half-orcs come from?  We can romanticize half-elves all day long, but not so much with the half-orcs.

After a hard day of slaughtering the evil orc hordes and stea--er, liberating their loot, the normal male human adventurer (who does not have any camp followers) will be desperate enough to bed an orc or two.  And howza human supposed to know if a goddamned orc sow is willing or not?

Quote from: Simlasa;422795An Ultraman/Science Patrol game sounds like a lot of fun... especially mashed up with Gerry Andersonverse elments... someone should go make that.

Yeah, good idea - how WOULD International Rescue react to a Mi-Go invasion?

Lord Hobie

Quote from: Lord Hobie;422837Yeah, good idea - how WOULD International Rescue react to a Mi-Go invasion?

Lord Hobie

With some sort of gigantic vehicle I imagine.

Quote from: Professort Zoot;422833After a hard day of slaughtering the evil orc hordes and stea--er, liberating their loot, the normal male human adventurer (who does not have any camp followers) will be desperate enough to bed an orc or two.  And howza human supposed to know if a goddamned orc sow is willing or not?

The orc (and troll) girls in World of Warcraft were cute... in a burly sort of way. Mind you I'd want to be careful where they put those tusks...

Half Orcs only exist because they were a thing in Tolkien's work. In Lord of the Rings, there are barbarian tribes where people are debased and loathsome and not nearly as White as the Numenorians, and they interbreed with Orcs sometimes. It's a thing they do. Them polluting their skin tones with Orcish blood is one of the things that lets you know that Dunlandings are bad people. It was a different era, and astounding levels of racism by today's standards were standard.

But anyway, the original source material for half orcs did not in fact require institutional rape for them to exist as a people. These days it's considered impolite to discuss "race mixing" as a sign of poor moral character, but on the flip side modern fantasy has produced PlayOrc.com, which is dedicated to pictures of sexy ladies with green skin and tusks. So imagining people volunteering to make halforcs the natural way is still very conceivable. Who wouldn't like a man or woman who has strong arms and good teeth.

Bottom line: there isn't any reason to believe that halforcs require rape to exist, and there never was.

-Frank

Quote from: Spinachcat;422494BTW, in regards to Rape in RPGs....where do half-orcs come from?  We can romanticize half-elves all day long, but not so much with the half-orcs.

Holy shit, you are a retard.  Half-orcs come from evil humans breeding with evil orcs.  Ta-fucking-dah.  It's not that difficult of a concept.

Honestly, I am sick to fucking death of half-orcs being used as an example of the constant and unrelenting rape that goes on in AD&D as a way to justify the inclusion in any other game ever.  It really is precisely the same as asking (all innocent-like) "Where do half-blacks come from?" as though the only possible answer is 'rape'.  The underlying concept is that a woman could not possibly be honestly attracted to a man of different ethnicity enough to have children with them.

So, seriously, shut the fuck up about half-orcs already.  Absolutely nothing in any D&D book has ever so much as insinuated that half-orcs are the product of rape, let alone exclusively the product of rape.

EDIT:  Frank ninja'd me.  I have to be quicker when he is around.

Why is it always the orcs raping the humans anyway? Don't orcs, male and female, have cranial vaginas?
I think we all know what that can lead to...

Quote from: Aos;422904Why is it always the orcs raping the humans anyway? Don't orcs, male and female, have cranial vaginas?
I think we all know what that can lead to...

To half-orcs?

and shotgun weddings.

You know, it wasn't until I came to talk about RPGs on the internet that I ever heard anyone suggest that half orcs came from anything other than rape, or spawning from magical curses, usually rape.

The idea that evil humans are more likely to be sexually aroused by orcs because they are ugly seems a touch silly.

I think orcs rape people because in a lot of fantasy, humans, elves, dwarves, and halflings are all good, and orcs fill the role of the villain by taking on all the negative traits of real people. Just like when someone thought it would be cool to make a race of evil, black skinned elves, they thought it would be cool to include half orcs. It was all in bad taste.

Personally, I don't have half dwarves, half hobbits, half elves, half orcs, or anything else unless one of the parent races can shapeshift, and barely ever then. I don't have them because it is a stupid idea.

Anyway, yeah, half orcs, fucking stupid, obviously in bad taste, and 90% of gamers everywhere they come from orcs raping humans.

Quote from: Cranewings;422911You know, it wasn't until I came to talk about RPGs on the internet that I ever heard anyone suggest that half orcs came from anything other than rape, or spawning from magical curses, usually rape.

"You said 'rape' twice."

He likes rape.

Lord Hobie

Quote from: Cranewings;422911You know, it wasn't until I came to talk about RPGs on the internet that I ever heard anyone suggest that half orcs came from anything other than rape, or spawning from magical curses, usually rape.

Quote from: thedungeondelver;422924"You said 'rape' twice."

Well, it makes sense, parsed as "It only comes from either A or B, and of the two, it's usually A."

But, I always thought that a substantial portion of half-orcs result from humans who live among orcs, and they interbreed. It's not that "evil humans are turned on by the ugly," it's just that they cohabit. Though, presumably most of such humans would be evil, since most orcs are evil. Frank's got a point, upthread. Tolkien invented the half-orc, and they result from orc tribes and human tribes that mingle.

Presumably some half-orcs would be the result of rape - as would some half-elves, and more 100% humans.