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WotC Stalinists Rewrite D&D History

Started by RPGPundit, November 25, 2023, 03:30:55 PM

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Ratman_tf

Quote from: honeydipperdavid on November 29, 2023, 05:56:24 AM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on November 28, 2023, 07:02:57 PM
Quote from: Aglondir on November 28, 2023, 05:56:56 PM
No one but Gen X will know the real name of Boba Fett's Starship.
Do the recent Star Wars RPGs do this as well?

I'm reminded of the naming of Megatron. As I heard the story, Hasbro thought Megatron sounded a lot like Megaton (as in megatons of nuclear bombs), and found it a bit threatening. The guy who was creating the lore and naming characters said (and I paraphrase) "He's the bad guy leader. That's the point." and the Hasbro execs reconsidered.

I guess we can change the name of Boba Fett's ship to "Happy Fun Ship".

Dude, you better hope that HasbeenBro's don't see this Flasgitz spoof of Transformers, they'll change the entire line to these characters: 



Pfft. Too late.

https://www.newsweek.com/transformers-non-binary-pronouns-lgbtq-transgender-1800099
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honeydipperdavid

Quote from: RPGPundit on November 30, 2023, 04:03:44 PM
Quote from: honeydipperdavid on November 25, 2023, 09:07:14 PM
The more that WotC cleanses itself of adjectives and promotes one race over another by political kommisar the more irrelevant and uncool the game becomes.  Kids want to do things that makes them the rebel and the outsider to help cleave themselves from their family identity to get their own identity as they grow up.  WotC is dead set on becoming the uncool establishment in writing and thought.  Think of how WotC is behaving as reverse Satanic Panic, finding new and unedgy ways to become that 45 year old dad with a gut and trying to get a 12 year old to think they cool by bringing out their yoyo tricks, fondue pots and tab cola. 

This is WotC's Neogi.  According to WotC, Neogi's are space autists with mental power.  Because they can't empathize they are evil?  Look at all of the redacted text that WotC had to do to comply with their political kommisars.  It reads like the redacted Kennedy Assasination report from the FBI.


In reality, Neogi are evil space slavers.  They were the main villains or Spelljammer.  In 5E Wokester edition, they are Evil Spock.  There is no edge, there is nothing cool or edgey about them, they are about as edgey as oatmeal with soy milk.

That's a fascinating example!

On D&D Beyond forums the mod made the excuse its copyrighted and pulled my post and prevented me from posting for a week (the communists are strong at WotC).  I don't know if this is fully legal to post but its your site.  That being written, compare it to Mord's Tome of Foes, and it's obvious they are space slavers and are evil because they are dicks.  When you look at the FBI Redacted version of Negoi I swear to God as a new DM I would play them as Vulcans, I don't think I'd even play them as Romulans as described by WotC now.

honeydipperdavid

Quote from: Ratman_tf on November 30, 2023, 04:11:53 PM
Quote from: honeydipperdavid on November 29, 2023, 05:56:24 AM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on November 28, 2023, 07:02:57 PM
Quote from: Aglondir on November 28, 2023, 05:56:56 PM
No one but Gen X will know the real name of Boba Fett's Starship.
Do the recent Star Wars RPGs do this as well?

I'm reminded of the naming of Megatron. As I heard the story, Hasbro thought Megatron sounded a lot like Megaton (as in megatons of nuclear bombs), and found it a bit threatening. The guy who was creating the lore and naming characters said (and I paraphrase) "He's the bad guy leader. That's the point." and the Hasbro execs reconsidered.

I guess we can change the name of Boba Fett's ship to "Happy Fun Ship".

Dude, you better hope that HasbeenBro's don't see this Flasgitz spoof of Transformers, they'll change the entire line to these characters: 



Pfft. Too late.

https://www.newsweek.com/transformers-non-binary-pronouns-lgbtq-transgender-1800099

I saw that, its shame the Trans-Transformer didn't even have a crackin set of tits.

Jaeger

Quote from: tenbones on November 28, 2023, 11:45:49 AM
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WotC owns D&D. Do they not have the right to pillage the D&D brand as they see fit? Do they not have the right to lie to everyone about its history? To fill it with their own self-loathing fantasies and frankenstein it into a worse monstrosity than it is now?

Yes. They 100% have this right.

And IMHO, the faster they get on with it the better for the RPG hobby in the long run.


Quote from: tenbones on November 28, 2023, 11:45:49 AM
And why do we care?

We should care only in that publicly pointing out Wotzi's mistakes serves as a vehicle to spread the word that there are many other good games out there, and that divesting oneself of any investment in IP's that hate you is the way forward.


Quote from: tenbones on November 28, 2023, 11:45:49 AM
They are about to seal themselves off in Crypt of Insanity. The brand is going elsewhere to dwell and hopefully they'll bring the Marxists with them into the walled Crypt. And there they should lay for all eternity... doing unspeakable acts to themselves.
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We can only dream...


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Ghostmaker

Sigh. As I once told someone in exasperation, trying to assign human sexual concepts and characteristics to giant robots is purely stupid. IDW had it right with the Transformers being normally a monogender race -- you couldn't be 'gay' or 'straight' when everyone's switches are effectively the same.

(Arcee was actually an outlier and had been forcibly mutilated into a female form, which also left her a violent nutcase. Hoo boy, they didn't like that one...)

Getting back on topic, I detest how game companies keep trying to airbrush out things. It was dumb when Paizo did it, and it's dumb when WotC does it. As I stated in another thread, we need antagonists. Villains. Otherwise, what's the point?

I honestly think these people are just sad, petty little creatures, with no room in their souls for wonder and adventure.

honeydipperdavid

Quote from: Ghostmaker on December 01, 2023, 08:23:24 AM
Sigh. As I once told someone in exasperation, trying to assign human sexual concepts and characteristics to giant robots is purely stupid. IDW had it right with the Transformers being normally a monogender race -- you couldn't be 'gay' or 'straight' when everyone's switches are effectively the same.

(Arcee was actually an outlier and had been forcibly mutilated into a female form, which also left her a violent nutcase. Hoo boy, they didn't like that one...)

Getting back on topic, I detest how game companies keep trying to airbrush out things. It was dumb when Paizo did it, and it's dumb when WotC does it. As I stated in another thread, we need antagonists. Villains. Otherwise, what's the point?

I honestly think these people are just sad, petty little creatures, with no room in their souls for wonder and adventure.

But what about those leftards who identify as Transformers why would you deny them of their robot shaft and gears to pleasure themselves?

I mean I'd like to be joking, but there is probably a few dudes getting plastic surgery to look like Optimus Prime.

Cathode Ray

Quote from: Ghostmaker on December 01, 2023, 08:23:24 AM
Sigh. As I once told someone in exasperation, trying to assign human sexual concepts and characteristics to giant robots is purely stupid. IDW had it right with the Transformers being normally a monogender race -- you couldn't be 'gay' or 'straight' when everyone's switches are effectively the same.

(Arcee was actually an outlier and had been forcibly mutilated into a female form, which also left her a violent nutcase. Hoo boy, they didn't like that one...)

Getting back on topic, I detest how game companies keep trying to airbrush out things. It was dumb when Paizo did it, and it's dumb when WotC does it. As I stated in another thread, we need antagonists. Villains. Otherwise, what's the point?

I honestly think these people are just sad, petty little creatures, with no room in their souls for wonder and adventure.

This "Transformers are genderless" concept dates all the way back to Generation 1 comic universe.  IDW is just being consistent.
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Valatar

Yeah, the original story for the transformers was that they spawned from the matrix in a completely asexual way.  Because, y'know, they're machines and all that.  Though that said, I'm pretty sure the cartoon, toys, and comics used 'he' to describe the various Autobots and Decepticons instead of 'it', so the door was open for someone to wander by and say that there were female models too.

Cathode Ray

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Quote from: Valatar on December 01, 2023, 11:04:35 PM
Yeah, the original story for the transformers was that they spawned from the matrix in a completely asexual way.  Because, y'know, they're machines and all that.  Though that said, I'm pretty sure the cartoon, toys, and comics used 'he' to describe the various Autobots and Decepticons instead of 'it', so the door was open for someone to wander by and say that there were female models too.

In the cartoon universe, they were distinctly described as male and female.  One unofficial comic from Japan, based on the G1 cartoon, explains the genders in a splash page featuring a male and female Autobot, possibly second generation Cybertronians, each with a half key as a retractable hand tool (like Hot Rod's retractable circular blade in Transformers: The Movie, or Optimus and Megatron's electro battle axe and mace, respectively, in the second episode of the G1 cartoon: More Than Meets the Eye, Part 2.).  together, they prepared to interface with Vector Sigma to create new Transformer life, just as Alpha Trion, a first-generation Cybertronian, was able to do it solo with a retractable key in "The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 2".  This makes at least some transformers "Male and female" with an actual purpose, and it also puts their reproductive organs in their hands.  I wrote a fanfic back in the day where a flirty female Autobot was teasing a male Autobot by retracting her hand (but not showing her key).  To a Transformer, an exposed hand-key would be sexy.

In summation: G1 comics: genderless.  G1 Animated series: Male and female, but with potential logic behind it.
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Jam The MF

Quote from: Spinachcat on November 26, 2023, 03:45:19 AM
Accelerate WotC!! Faster toward that brick wall!!

WOTC seems to be doing a good quick job of it, all by themselves.  Although, I'm sure they don't want to be outdone by Paizo.  Paizo acts as an accelerant.
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honeydipperdavid

Quote from: Jam The MF on December 02, 2023, 12:37:57 AM
Quote from: Spinachcat on November 26, 2023, 03:45:19 AM
Accelerate WotC!! Faster toward that brick wall!!

WOTC seems to be doing a good quick job of it, all by themselves.  Although, I'm sure they don't want to be outdone by Paizo.  Paizo acts as an accelerant.

When running adventurers league content, my favorite thing to do is to remove the degenerate content and run it how a medieval society would run.  Strong single mothers running a farm with 2 kids under 10, replaced by a farmer widower with his two kids and ranch hands armed to the teeth.  A lesbian couple in a world always on the brink of destruction, replaced with a married couple and their kids.  There is no way in the D&D world in any campaign will any society encourage homosexuality with monsters eating up their guards like PEZ candies, society would actively be against that and would set up taboos to prevent it to keep the population up.

Wrath of God

QuoteThere is no way in the D&D world in any campaign will any society encourage homosexuality with monsters eating up their guards like PEZ candies, society would actively be against that and would set up taboos to prevent it to keep the population up.

TBH any society when guards are eaten like PEZ candles would collapse like house of cards, and all those extra babies would just be monster food.
In fact now I think about it - most demographic explosions happened precisely in good times after bad times ended. During bad times... yeah statiscs were stagnant or bad.
Just like with animals - bitch will eat her puppies in time of hunger, move other 100 miles and start anew.
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