I could believe 1 in 15 have played it, but quite obviously 1 in 15 are not playing it now.

I've been running an open game table for AD&D1e. We've had 8 sessions, and the attendances have been,

Paul   8
Dan   8
Hansen   2
Pino   1
Ethan   1
Simon   5
Pat   1
Kira   1
Jon 1st   1
John 2nd   2
Michael   1

So that I could say, "I run a game with 11 players," but the truth is that 6 of them came once. Lots of people are willing to give anything a go - once, or even twice. That doesn't make them regular players of that game or sport.

Quote from: Headless;1038514Whats the problem?  Its a puff piece.  A nice fluffy positve puff pastry as some one said above.  

Why you mad bro?

New to the Internet, are we?

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;1038523I could believe 1 in 15 have played it, but quite obviously 1 in 15 are not playing it now.

At least 2/3 (probably more) of the boys in my grade school class in 1980 played D&D for a few months. At least 1 in 6 (that I know of) continued to play some RPG more seriously in later years.

Quote from: jeff37923;1038521More players who actually play is a good thing.

Yes.

At least a third of the players in my local D&D scene are women, and I live in a pretty redneck rural area. The percentage goes up even higher if you count Pathfinder as "D&D". Forty percent for a college town or big metro area is completely plausible.

It's not the eighties anymore.

Quote from: Headless;1038514Whats the problem?  Its a puff piece.  A nice fluffy positve puff pastry as some one said above.  

Why you mad bro?

Why are you getting bent out of shape over a comment on a puff piece?

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;1038523I could believe 1 in 15 have played it, but quite obviously 1 in 15 are not playing it now.

I bet it's skewed by people who have bought multiple copies. I myself have bought two copies of the three core books, because I have an old friend who cannot afford them himself.

Quote from: Just Another Snake Cult;1038859At least a third of the players in my local D&D scene are women, and I live in a pretty redneck rural area. The percentage goes up even higher if you count Pathfinder as "D&D". Forty percent for a college town or big metro area is completely plausible.

It's not the eighties anymore.

About a quarter to a third of my gaming pool have been women for ages.

The current strength of popculture in Western society normalises our niche to such an extent, that high numbers of women in the hobby seem credible. Maybe not 40%, but ~30% sounds reasonable.

Even I, a chauvinist, have a regular female player in my group.

Quote from: Nerzenjäger;1039129The current strength of popculture in Western society normalises our niche to such an extent, that high numbers of women in the hobby seem credible. Maybe not 40%, but ~30% sounds reasonable.

Then we skew that towards 'people who answer WotC surveys,' and the 40% looks fairly believable. Perhaps WotC isn't just blowing smoke (the reporter, however, does need to learn how to state what the survey actually is).

I'm sure this is a product of sampling bias. They probably gathered the data at conventions, and most of those things have become hostile environments for their main demographic: The Dreaded Cis White Male that doesn't want to lose their livelihood because they noticed a woman was a woman or didn't notice the person with an 8in beard was a woman.

Quote from: ThePoxBox;1039163I'm sure this is a product of sampling bias. They probably gathered the data at conventions, and most of those things have become hostile environments for their main demographic: The Dreaded Cis White Male that doesn't want to lose their livelihood because they noticed a woman was a woman or didn't notice the person with an 8in beard was a woman.

Last I checked, people don't go to gaming conventions looking for a hookup. I could care less what the person I am buying books from looks like because I am there to buy books. Mind you, I also shave and shower and exercise regularly and am capable of having a conversation without making sexual comments so yeah.

Quote from: Krimson;1039172Last I checked, people don't go to gaming conventions looking for a hookup. I could care less what the person I am buying books from looks like because I am there to buy books. Mind you, I also shave and shower and exercise regularly and am capable of having a conversation without making sexual comments so yeah.

That's probably one of the most passive-aggressive, prejudice things I've ever heard. How does one's sexual orientation, race, or gender, relate to someone's physical fitness, hygiene, or social skills? And furthermore, why is this discussion immediately about you? We're talking about surveys, statistics, and demographics. You are an individual, so your individual experience is not on topic.

I'm talking about federal law when it comes to sexual harassment in the workplace and how those laws try to become precedent for policy at conventions. When the adjudication is based on how someone feels offended, and that mere rumor can ruin someone's reputation to those that work for companies that are afraid of virtue signalling mobs, then yes, it's a hostile environment.

To get back on topic, I'm just agreeing with other people in the topic talking about a lack of transparency on how the survey was conducted. When basic scientific processes are not followed for things like surveys, they might as well never publish them if they have any thread of integrity.

Quote from: ThePoxBox;1039175That's probably one of the most passive-aggressive, prejudice things I've ever heard. How does one's sexual orientation, race, or gender, relate to someone's physical fitness, hygiene, or social skills? And furthermore, why is this discussion immediately about you? We're talking about surveys, statistics, and demographics. You are an individual, so your individual experience is not on topic.

I'm talking about federal law when it comes to sexual harassment in the workplace and how those laws try to become precedent for policy at conventions. When the adjudication is based on how someone feels offended, and that mere rumor can ruin someone's reputation to those that work for companies that are afraid of virtue signalling mobs, then yes, it's a hostile environment.

To get back on topic, I'm just agreeing with other people in the topic talking about a lack of transparency on how the survey was conducted. When basic scientific processes are not followed for things like surveys, they might as well never publish them if they have any thread of integrity.

People who conduct themselves like normal, respectful human beings while out in public typically don't whine about being discriminated against. In my experience, there is only one demographic which needs to be escorted off the property by security.

Quote from: Krimson;1039177People who conduct themselves like normal, respectful human beings while out in public typically don't whine about being discriminated against. In my experience, there is only one demographic which needs to be escorted off the property by security.

I'm not whining. I don't go because there is no way to prevent abuse of the policy as a tool for witch-hunting every person that doesn't agree with someone else and they want to be malicious and try to ruin their life. If there were consequences for false accusations I'd feel differently, but there aren't because the falsity of the accusations is just as hard to prove as the validity of them. Without any physical evidence, these situations are hearsay and should be treated as such. That is, there is no adjudicating hearsay, no matter the number of witnesses. No evidence, no case, no punishment.
 
In my experience, you personally, are a racist and sexist theocrat professing the doctrine of "normal, respectful" purity. You're more disgusting than those that you try to pass judgement upon.