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WotC "Selling off D&D"? Maybe Not...

Started by RPGPundit, January 31, 2024, 08:42:56 AM

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RPGPundit

January 31, 2024, 08:42:56 AM
Is WotC SELLING D&D? An article that came out this morning has many people suggesting that, but is it accurate?
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January 31, 2024, 02:37:40 PM
What's the difference?

No sell means Hasbro keeps fucking the corpse

A sell means Tencent keeps fucking the corpse

Unless someone honestly believes Tencent would be a better steward of D&D? Or that Hasbro will EVER become a good steward?
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rkhigdon

#2
January 31, 2024, 03:27:45 PM
Well, my thought is that Larian Studios would actually be the steward, and that is most definitely not better.

Thor's Nads

#3
January 31, 2024, 03:56:56 PM
This would explain why Hasbro gutted Wizards of the Coast during the last round of layoffs.

They don't NEED them anymore if they're getting sold.
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January 31, 2024, 03:58:29 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on January 31, 2024, 02:37:40 PM
What's the difference?

No sell means Hasbro keeps fucking the corpse

A sell means Tencent keeps fucking the corpse

Unless someone honestly believes Tencent would be a better steward of D&D? Or that Hasbro will EVER become a good steward?

The difference is that Tencent is NOT INTERESTED in buying all of D&D. The original article in the original chinese seems pretty clearly to be saying it wants only the rights to all the video games.
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January 31, 2024, 03:59:05 PM
Quote from: rkhigdon on January 31, 2024, 03:27:45 PM
Well, my thought is that Larian Studios would actually be the steward, and that is most definitely not better.

Except, if you watched my video you'd know TENCENT DOES NOT WANT TO BUY ALL OF D&D.

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January 31, 2024, 04:00:57 PM
Quote from: Thor's Nads on January 31, 2024, 03:56:56 PM
This would explain why Hasbro gutted Wizards of the Coast during the last round of layoffs.

They don't NEED them anymore if they're getting sold.


Again, except that according to my video, which is based on the ORIGINAL Chinese source, Tencent has NO INTEREST in buying all of D&D, they just want to negotiate for exclusive video game rights.

Also, while I agree that layoffs can be a potential sign of selling off, in this case it is more likely to be because of WotC's/Cynthia Williams' already clearly-stated intention to move away from book publishing and into the VTT as the central focus of the "D&D experience".
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January 31, 2024, 04:01:45 PM
It's incredible how many people feel entitled to comment on my video without having actually watched it.
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#8
January 31, 2024, 04:07:07 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on January 31, 2024, 04:01:45 PM
It's incredible how many people feel entitled to comment on my video without having actually watched it.

I watched it. And you may be right. But hey, it's a Wednesday and this is a fun topic to spread rampant rumors and speculate about.  ;D
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Baron

#9
January 31, 2024, 04:34:46 PM
Well, I don't watch video blogs, seems I'm not the only one. But I'm reading posts on the topic online.

GhostNinja

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January 31, 2024, 07:11:35 PM
Quote from: Baron on January 31, 2024, 04:34:46 PM
Well, I don't watch video blogs, seems I'm not the only one. But I'm reading posts on the topic online.

Yep.  Didnt watch (and don't watch) RpgPundits videos but I saw this on Dungeon Craft and I find him pretty reliable on the information he provides.
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GeekyBugle

#11
January 31, 2024, 07:35:02 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on January 31, 2024, 03:58:29 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on January 31, 2024, 02:37:40 PM
What's the difference?

No sell means Hasbro keeps fucking the corpse

A sell means Tencent keeps fucking the corpse

Unless someone honestly believes Tencent would be a better steward of D&D? Or that Hasbro will EVER become a good steward?

The difference is that Tencent is NOT INTERESTED in buying all of D&D. The original article in the original chinese seems pretty clearly to be saying it wants only the rights to all the video games.

YES, it makes no difference to my point.
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BadApple

#12
January 31, 2024, 07:36:08 PM
So here's an idea I want to float.

What if Hasbro knows the VTT is failing and they are trying to manage the losses before they become so public as to turn them inside-out?  Possibly, Tencent sees D&D as an IP they can then license out to both in house developers and to other publishers like Mongoose or Asmodee?
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David Johansen

#13
January 31, 2024, 08:56:00 PM
Okay, I need a bagillion dollars right quick so I can swoop in and buy D&D.  I guess it's time to put Galaxies In Shadow up for sale on Amazon.  :D
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Orphan81

#14
January 31, 2024, 09:36:53 PM
Tencent wants it by way of Larian.

Larian originally wanted it, but couldn't afford it. They're the ones that tipped off Tencent to it..

Tencent has a 30% stake in Larian... If Tencent buys it, they're buying all of it, not just the videogames and they're going to give it to Larian.

And if Larian becomes the owners of the D&D intellectual Property by way of Daddy Tencent?

D&D has a much bigger chance of being saved.
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