This is a big mistake, because many of us will tell Wizards of the Woke exactly what we think.
https://survey.alchemer.com/s3/7750520/2024-Q1-Community-Survey
They're pretty cowardly, in my opinion, because there are no places for essay questions.
Will the results be published automatically without their ability to tweak the responses/results? If not, it's not a big mistake because they can ignore it and just pay lip service to the parts they wanted to change anyways instead.
Well, that was a big bag of nothing.
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Black arrows of death and hatred have been loosed.
Quote from: Cathode Ray on March 12, 2024, 07:47:07 PM
This is a big mistake, because many of us will tell Wizards of the Woke exactly what we think.
https://survey.alchemer.com/s3/7750520/2024-Q1-Community-Survey
They're pretty cowardly, in my opinion, because there are no places for essay questions.
Cox: "Wow, they really don't like us!"
Williams: "Yeah, good thing we fired most of our staff."
Is there any proof that this is a survey done by WOTC instead of just a random joe setting it up?
Well, it jumped from 50% to 100% based on my answers. I'm guessing I'm not who they're looking to hear from. Ah, well, my answers are a bit weird as I closed my store down six months ago. And yeah, I had D&D books on the shelf and yeah, I suggested them to people. If I do another store I probably won't bother carrying D&D again. It's a weird thing but in reality I probably won't bother having another store. 11 years was enough to make me not like gamers very much :D
Quote from: RNGm on March 12, 2024, 09:52:38 PM
Is there any proof that this is a survey done by WOTC instead of just a random joe setting it up?
It's a fair question but yes, this is from WOTC. alchemer is what they use for these.
It depends on how WotC is sampling, online is just horribad for sampling.
If they go to D&D Beyond, they'll get the demiqueer foxkin looking for 12 year old boys to teach race marxism and share puberty blocker type crowd, they will love the current direction of D&D.
Meanwhile, if they went to the hobby shops where people still play, they'll most likely get good responses from the players. The DM's response will be negative because we have to convert older content to 5E to keep players player. The amount of work I've had to do is too damn high. I'm just rerunning a current campaign with my hobby shop group I built for my online group due to the prep time it requires now to fix 5E shit.
To me, this survey looks to be manipulated to give WotC a better appearance with its customers for Hasbro. Why? They don't ask if you are a DM. Wotc knows DM's hate the shit WotC is shoveling and they know DM's do the bulk of spend. DM's are the whales and players are minnows at best. I've had players come to the shop, won't fucking buy dice even from the shop or a mini and roll dice on their phone. The fuckers use a penny as their character on the map. Some players are that damn cheap. And then you got the DM in training players who spend like a DM. I've had a few go that route as well.
Quote from: honeydipperdavid on March 13, 2024, 01:45:52 AM
It depends on how WotC is sampling, online is just horribad for sampling.
If they go to D&D Beyond, they'll get the demiqueer foxkin looking for 12 year old boys to teach race marxism and share puberty blocker type crowd, they will love the current direction of D&D.
Meanwhile, if they went to the hobby shops where people still play, they'll most likely get good responses from the players. The DM's response will be negative because we have to convert older content to 5E to keep players player. The amount of work I've had to do is too damn high. I'm just rerunning a current campaign with my hobby shop group I built for my online group due to the prep time it requires now to fix 5E shit.
To me, this survey looks to be manipulated to give WotC a better appearance with its customers for Hasbro. Why? They don't ask if you are a DM. Wotc knows DM's hate the shit WotC is shoveling and they know DM's do the bulk of spend. DM's are the whales and players are minnows at best. I've had players come to the shop, won't fucking buy dice even from the shop or a mini and roll dice on their phone. The fuckers use a penny as their character on the map. Some players are that damn cheap. And then you got the DM in training players who spend like a DM. I've had a few go that route as well.
I require that phones be put away during the session at my campaign. Don't want to roll physical dice? Ok no problem join another campaign. I have a ton of loaner dice on hand because players (even those that do have dice) forget them on occasion. I run AD&D and B/X based games these days. Prep wise I don't have time for a lot of 5E horseshit. I will still play 5E if a friend wants to run it, but I won't seek out a 5E game with strangers just to play it. A survey without the option for comments isn't worth the effort. They can load the questions however they want to get the desired responses.
Quote from: Mistwell on March 13, 2024, 01:10:21 AM
Quote from: RNGm on March 12, 2024, 09:52:38 PM
Is there any proof that this is a survey done by WOTC instead of just a random joe setting it up?
It's a fair question but yes, this is from WOTC. alchemer is what they use for these.
I'll take your word on that but is there proof that *THIS* survey is from WOTC? I assume that WOTC wouldn't be the only company/legal entity/person using the service. Is there a link on an official WOTC webpage asking for the feedback or a screenshot from supposedly private playtest communications asking for it? How did this link first appear/get noticed? I don't have any problem with random people conducting their own poll (and answered it myself) but was just curious in my typically skeptical way.
@Cathode Ray How did you first come across that link to the survey if you don't mind me asking?
Replying to surveys like this will not change anything they didn't already want changed. It is not a good use of your time.
D&D: Good? Bad?
WotC: Good? Bad?
Most meaning free survey I've seen in some time.
LOL....well I answered honestly. HEHEHE
I answered neutral opinion and had not recommended in more than year and did not like their current direction for both. My thinking is that if they think they could have had a customer if not for their current direction, it will improve the odds of them paying attention by 0.001%
I could be wrong but I've always had the impression that surveys like this are about messaging, not actually changing things.
Quote from: RNGm on March 13, 2024, 09:35:54 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on March 13, 2024, 01:10:21 AM
Quote from: RNGm on March 12, 2024, 09:52:38 PM
Is there any proof that this is a survey done by WOTC instead of just a random joe setting it up?
It's a fair question but yes, this is from WOTC. alchemer is what they use for these.
I'll take your word on that but is there proof that *THIS* survey is from WOTC? I assume that WOTC wouldn't be the only company/legal entity/person using the service. Is there a link on an official WOTC webpage asking for the feedback or a screenshot from supposedly private playtest communications asking for it? How did this link first appear/get noticed? I don't have any problem with random people conducting their own poll (and answered it myself) but was just curious in my typically skeptical way.
@Cathode Ray How did you first come across that link to the survey if you don't mind me asking?
Came from the WOTC DNDBeyond official twitter account?
https://twitter.com/DnDBeyond/status/1767243625480458456
Quote from: Mistwell on March 13, 2024, 10:16:52 PM
Came from the WOTC DNDBeyond official twitter account?
https://twitter.com/DnDBeyond/status/1767243625480458456
Thanks! I stand corrected then and my skepticism wasn't warranted. I'm genuinely surprised that they'd even bother to ask regardless of whether or not they actually use the results for anything.
Quote from: Cathode Ray on March 12, 2024, 07:47:07 PM
This is a big mistake, because many of us will tell Wizards of the Woke exactly what we think.
https://survey.alchemer.com/s3/7750520/2024-Q1-Community-Survey
They're pretty cowardly, in my opinion, because there are no places for essay questions.
Well, that was quick and easy.
Do you love D&D? Yes!
Do you hate WotC? Yes!
Quote from: Chris24601 on March 13, 2024, 08:00:48 PM
I answered neutral opinion and had not recommended in more than year and did not like their current direction for both. My thinking is that if they think they could have had a customer if not for their current direction, it will improve the odds of them paying attention by 0.001%
Best feedback is being negative on D&D Beyond Forums so when they run a job to scan for sentiment it comes up negative, that will get forwarded to WotC and Hasbro heads. Of course the race marxists are the forum mods and my god will they ban you like mad. I actually have sent my ban email and reason why to a social medial person and they posted because it was so egregious it was hillarious for the ban reason. Now, I lampoon D&D and push them to do really stupid things for fun. Its fun watching the idiots bite and support for example "just remove the lore, its so much better for the DM to be creative, why can't we have demons that want to create life and restore order, its all about creativity and it saves the DM so much time to be able to do what they want, destroy the old lore and rules". Essentially anything that makes it harder to play and run the game, I put out retarded takes and the retards on D&D Beyond support it. I figure the best way to get rid of the race marxists is to push those fuckers off the cliff. I was a little tiny bit of the last purge of 2,000 employees, lets hope I'm a little tiny bit of the next purge of 2,000 employees, fuck em. Give WotC bad feedback and egg them on to their death.
Quote from: Thor's Nads on March 13, 2024, 10:59:29 PM
Quote from: Cathode Ray on March 12, 2024, 07:47:07 PM
This is a big mistake, because many of us will tell Wizards of the Woke exactly what we think.
https://survey.alchemer.com/s3/7750520/2024-Q1-Community-Survey
They're pretty cowardly, in my opinion, because there are no places for essay questions.
Well, that was quick and easy.
Do you love D&D? Yes!
Do you hate WotC? Yes!
:D You too?
;D Me too!
Amazing how quick the survey is when you have a negative impression of WotC and the direction D&D is going.
Quote from: Cathode Ray on March 12, 2024, 07:47:07 PM
This is a big mistake, because many of us will tell Wizards of the Woke exactly what we think.
https://survey.alchemer.com/s3/7750520/2024-Q1-Community-Survey
They're pretty cowardly, in my opinion, because there are no places for essay questions.
No. This is what they want. They will look at what people want and then do the exact opposite to garner outrage marketing.
Quote from: RNGm on March 13, 2024, 09:35:54 AM
@Cathode Ray How did you first come across that link to the survey if you don't mind me asking?
Why would I mind? Someone on a Discord server posted the survey. I think it was the
Legion of Myth server. It may have been
RandomWorlds server.
Quote from: jeff37923 on March 14, 2024, 07:57:15 PM
Amazing how quick the survey is when you have a negative impression of WotC and the direction D&D is going.
You are 100% correct. That was the fastest survey I have ever taken.
Quote from: jeff37923 on March 14, 2024, 07:57:15 PM
Amazing how quick the survey is when you have a negative impression of WotC and the direction D&D is going.
Question is, is the survey any longer if you answer positively. Part of me wants someone to try it, and part of me doesn't want them to get a single positive feedback.
Quote from: Ruprecht on March 15, 2024, 09:08:37 AM
Quote from: jeff37923 on March 14, 2024, 07:57:15 PM
Amazing how quick the survey is when you have a negative impression of WotC and the direction D&D is going.
Question is, is the survey any longer if you answer positively. Part of me wants someone to try it, and part of me doesn't want them to get a single positive feedback.
The problem with the survey, nothing asked on this:
"Has WotC's publicly stated political stances made you more likely or less likely to buy a WotC product?"
I'd like them to state Kyle Brings baby poopoo in diaper cause I'm a leftard self hating white moment and their BS line against all D&D versions before 5E on DMsguild, Drivethru and any other company selling older D&D content. They won't bring that one up. Plus they aren't known as much by the general public.
Who gives a fuck what 1) WotC 2)what rando's that hang WotC's nuts, wants to know what we think about WotC's products?
Other than people around these parts that use WotC and their endless issues for engagement reasons to sell their products (which is fair, no one is forcing you to do anything you don't want to do), who really gives a shit?
Or is this just more "I got nothing else to talk about in the TTRPG space other than what WotC does wrong (yet again), yet again?" The survey isn't for any of you. It's for the fucking losers that pretend "WotC's D&D" is worth saving. It's not your D&D.
We're all watching the ship go down. Let's enjoy the silence and watch those flames rise. Give them nothing. Take from them, everything. (i.e. your money and attention). Who is still counting their mistakes at this point?
I didn't even open the survey. That amount of effort just might convince WOTC that I actually care enough to take the time to say I hate you.
Quote from: jeff37923 on March 14, 2024, 07:57:15 PM
Amazing how quick the survey is when you have a negative impression of WotC and the direction D&D is going.
Yeah, like I said, I was at 50% and suddenly I was at 100% To be fair to WotC they probably shouldn't care what people who don't buy their products think. That's where TSR went wrong.
Quote from: Exploderwizard on March 15, 2024, 09:25:25 PM
I didn't even open the survey. That amount of effort just might convince WOTC that I actually care enough to take the time to say I hate you.
Greetings!
That's right, Exploderwizard! I haven't taken the survey. I could care less. As Tenbones discussed, (OOH RAH! TENBONES!)--WE are not WOTC's market anymore. They do not care about us, they do not respect us, and, as many have concluded, like Pundit, DD, and others, WOTC actually *hates* us.
See DD's references for Twitter comments and interview videos made by MANY of the staff and writers at WOTC for the receipts.
So, yeah. Fuck WOTC. Let them burn. The hotter the flames, the better!
Semper Fidelis,
SHARK
Quote from: Ruprecht on March 15, 2024, 09:08:37 AM
Quote from: jeff37923 on March 14, 2024, 07:57:15 PM
Amazing how quick the survey is when you have a negative impression of WotC and the direction D&D is going.
Question is, is the survey any longer if you answer positively. Part of me wants someone to try it, and part of me doesn't want them to get a single positive feedback.
It's not longer. A few on ENWorld said it's the same no matter what you answer, though one person out of like 20 claimed he thought he got more questions (unclear how he answered).
I didn't even know how to answer. Do I like D&D?
WTF is D&D anymore? I assume they mean 5e only.
I love OD&D and the OSR. That's my only attachment to "D&D"
Quote from: Mistwell on March 15, 2024, 11:28:25 PM
It's not longer. A few on ENWorld said it's the same no matter what you answer, though one person out of like 20 claimed he thought he got more questions (unclear how he answered).
heh...hopefully 95% of respondants said they hated WotC it's the message they need to hear.
I'm sorry, my responses are limited. You must ask the right question.
Quote from: honeydipperdavid on March 15, 2024, 10:11:42 AM
The problem with the survey, nothing asked on this:
"Has WotC's publicly stated political stances made you more likely or less likely to buy a WotC product?"
That, my friend, is the right question.