Welcome to D&D 6e where every player character is a god and all non-player characters are just there to make you more powerful. - RachaelStrange

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Interesting Thread Title!!!

Careful, someone will accuse you of trying to be like the Pundit, then go off on you for no particular reason.

subbed.

Oh I'm sorry  Should I move it to another forum? I thought it would be an interesting discussion on the latest D&D release.

Quote from: Cathal on April 26, 2023, 08:23:12 AM
Oh I'm sorry  Should I move it to another forum? I thought it would be an interesting discussion on the latest D&D release.

Ignore the retards. If Pundit or Brett have a problem, they'll let you know directly.

Kind of unsurprising though. While there's an argument that NPCs should not outshine PCs, at the same time there needs to be some risk. Without risk, where is the glory?

Quote from: Cathal on April 25, 2023, 10:49:59 PM
Welcome to D&D 6e where every player character is a god and all non-player characters are just there to make you more powerful. - RachaelStrange

This is news because.....?

It's clear with everything they have done in recent days from the OGL to everything else that they are idiots and full of crap.

It's not unexpected that their view of what D&D is, varies so much from where it started. This is what happens when someone creates a game, and then someone else buys it and hires a bunch of guys to re-write it. Repeatedly. There's no continuity of vision, there's no respect for the original. You just get the next writer-of-the-moment and his own preferences. "Today's guest writer would like to tell us about his game, I mean, his improved D&D!"

Very much like Hollywood. The cliched interview with the new team creating a reboot. "We wanted to do it our way."

Can you tell I'm not a fan of reboots? Hollywood or gaming?

Quote from: Baron on April 26, 2023, 02:03:17 PM
It's not unexpected that their view of what D&D is, varies so much from where it started. This is what happens when someone creates a game, and then someone else buys it and hires a bunch of guys to re-write it. Repeatedly. There's no continuity of vision, there's no respect for the original. You just get the next writer-of-the-moment and his own preferences. "Today's guest writer would like to tell us about his game, I mean, his improved D&D!

Very much like Hollywood. The cliched interview with the new team creating a reboot. "We wanted to do it our way.

Can you tell I'm not a fan of reboots? Hollywood or gaming?

Understand that.  Dont watch reboots.  I have noticed that the majority of them fail because most people ignore them.

I hate reboots because by definition they negate the previous version.  Not a fan of that.

Glancing Blows (or damage on a miss) was a trend that I thought had died out once people actually used it and found that the increased bookkeeping wasn't worth the negligible effect it had on the outcome of the combat. It is sad to see D&D now chasing decades old trends instead of trying to do anything new. 

Of course, tedious bookkeeping isn't an issue for an app-driven game, so ...

Of the crap mentioned, additional applications for weapons through weapon mastery takes the cake for me. Apparently everyone playing must be so intellectually challenged that tripping an opponent with a pole weapon or ringing someone's head with a strong blow was just not possible until new rules were written to facilitate. Worse yet, this is all is locked behind a progression track because you can't do it unless its on you characters sheet, and character progression requires ability bloat. This is a button pushing simulator, not a pretend elf game.

Deduced damage on a miss, near miss. I presume, is not a bad idea. It is but a poor fitting idea and a poorly executed idea. Abilities should be tied to the fiction, not the dice rolls. Want a better chance to hit something at the price of damage, use power attack. Otherwise, degree of success is just not in the D&D DNA beyond amount of damage, so a hit is a hit and a near miss is still a miss. Can extra damage accelerate hit point attrition? Sure, so can a HP nerf. Front load HP for survivability and curb the progression bloat. Extra damage by itself is just extra. How about spending HP to buff attack rolls instead, that can create interesting choices instead of optimizing a superfluous mechanic for extra damage.

Magic for everyone? Isn't that what read magic and scrolls are for?

Lastly, multiclassing. I do like some branching development in a class system, but I fully agree that it is ridiculous for an adventure on campaign to casually pickup skills that should take years of practice to develop. Classes should front load more ability unlocks when taken at level one and mostly only boost said ability when take latter.  Congratulations on taking a level of wizard, you know gain a multiplier to you wizardly prowess. Unfortunately, as a fighter you had zero wizard prowess and so you are still at zero after the multiplier. Maybe a level of diversified fighter would have been a better choice, forgoe all fighter boost this level to gain use of one spell instead, but you have to roll for it so if you fail, try another spell or another instructor.

Why are we paying attention to WotC at all?

Quote from: Philotomy Jurament on April 26, 2023, 09:08:37 PM
Why are we paying attention to WotC at all?

That's a damn great question.  Gaming still happens without them.

Quote from: Philotomy Jurament on April 26, 2023, 09:08:37 PM
Why are we paying attention to WotC at all?

That's like asking why non-Americans follow U.S. politics. Like it or not, WotC's decisions and antics affect the hobby, micro or macro scale. Not to mention all the people that can't cut the umbilical on zombie wearing the face of a product they once loved.