Quote from: Omega on August 27, 2024, 02:28:14 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 27, 2024, 01:12:37 PMBesides all the gayness it exudes someone needs to teach the artist how to hold that hammer, that's not how you do it.

Pay close attention to the right hand's orientation. It's holding the hammer as if it was a spear.

Not sure. But think that is a actual hammer hold there. You slide the far hand down to the handle hand as you build momentum. It still looks off or at least awkward.

But a quick search and colour me surprised when yah is how you handle it.

You just proved my point, his thumbs are opposite to each other, unlike in the drawing where both hands thumbs are pointing DOWNWARDS. He's holding the hammer like if he were to thrust a spear.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 27, 2024, 03:02:40 PM

Quote from: Omega on August 27, 2024, 02:28:14 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 27, 2024, 01:12:37 PMBesides all the gayness it exudes someone needs to teach the artist how to hold that hammer, that's not how you do it.

Pay close attention to the right hand's orientation. It's holding the hammer as if it was a spear.

Not sure. But think that is a actual hammer hold there. You slide the far hand down to the handle hand as you build momentum. It still looks off or at least awkward.

But a quick search and colour me surprised when yah is how you handle it.

You just proved my point, his thumbs are opposite to each other, unlike in the drawing where both hands thumbs are pointing DOWNWARDS. He's holding the hammer like if he were to thrust a spear.

I believe that when you say "teach the artist" it means "train the AI".

Quote from: Exploderwizard on August 27, 2024, 03:08:17 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 27, 2024, 03:02:40 PM

Quote from: Omega on August 27, 2024, 02:28:14 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 27, 2024, 01:12:37 PMBesides all the gayness it exudes someone needs to teach the artist how to hold that hammer, that's not how you do it.

Pay close attention to the right hand's orientation. It's holding the hammer as if it was a spear.

Not sure. But think that is a actual hammer hold there. You slide the far hand down to the handle hand as you build momentum. It still looks off or at least awkward.

But a quick search and colour me surprised when yah is how you handle it.

You just proved my point, his thumbs are opposite to each other, unlike in the drawing where both hands thumbs are pointing DOWNWARDS. He's holding the hammer like if he were to thrust a spear.

I believe that when you say "teach the artist" it means "train the AI".

Could be, maybe that's why that error is there.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 27, 2024, 03:02:40 PMYou just proved my point, his thumbs are opposite to each other, unlike in the drawing where both hands thumbs are pointing DOWNWARDS. He's holding the hammer like if he were to thrust a spear.

Um, look again. The character in the art is holding the hammer in the same way.

The thumb on the hand near the head is pointing up, and the one near the base is pointing down.

Points to the artist for at least getting it right. Still doesnt look right.

Skip to around the 12 min mark and get a load of these jokers trying to sell Sigil.

So D&D has to be more "toyetic" and the players want more "toys". uh-huh? Tell us more? Also they do not seem to know what a module is.

On the rare bright side. looks like a fair amount of customization is going to be allowed. That might bet paywalled. But so far that is a rare good sign.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3RqehN6hS0

Oh look, WOTC announced their slate of upcoming products and A TON OF IT IS PHYSICAL PRODUCTS!

Starter set is a redo of Keep on the Borderlands, Wilderness, and Caves of Chaos. Physical boxed set, three adventures.

"Dragon Amthology", 10 new small Adventures focused on Dragons, physical book.

DM's Guide to Faerun (namedrops Dalelands, Calishman, Baldur's Gate, Moonshine Isles, Icewind Dale) physical book.

Players Guide to Faerun: new subclasses, new Feats, new Backgrounds, new Spells. Physical book.

This is all of course in addition to DMG and MM.

And Local Game Store Early Access, two weeks early for books, and special covers for Local Game Stores, and additional adventure support for local game stores. A sure sign they are killing physical books, right?

They also again confirmed, and showed, that their VTT is a 3d sandbox where you can play any TTRPG, not just D&D.

And then they announced a huge slate of 3rd party publishers who will be included with DnDBeyond. Including non-DnD stuff like Lord of the Rings. You can bring your own images, and bring 2d images into it. Heck, you can play OSR games on it. Too bad Pundit is so dead set on enshitfying conversations about WOTC D&D, maybe he could have had his products included on DnDBeyond and be readying inclusion in their VTT for a huge boost in his sales. Oh well. Lost capitalist opportunity. His clickbait edgelord bullshit videos will make up that revenue, right? Right?

And some other stuff, like D&D Legos (physical, 12 minifigs) and new Magic: The Gathering D&D cards (physical).

Wow, it's almost as if Pundit was LYING THROUGH HIS TEETH about WOTC going digital-only!

Can't wait to see what a train wreck this Keep on the Borderlands will be with orcs being fun loving Mexicans. The castellan will likely be a fat lesbian and the caves of chaos filled with white conservatives. Ought to be a hoot.

You call essentially a two-part book (FR), an art book about dragons, and a rehash of the starter set "tons"? The FR books are the only real thing there, and would have been planned about two years ago, and given that 5e has never actually had a single true setting product, they're willing to gamble on a two-volume set about the Forgotten Realms actually maybe making them some money (of course, whether it will or not will depend on  how much they butcher it by filling it full of gay dwarves and strong overweight bipoc girl-bosses).

Meanwhile, they're promoting third party products they've made deals with on their VTT BECAUSE they don't want to product more published content. And incidentally, the VTT will be a subscription model with microtransactions to the point that the video reveals that even "tokens" (ie. virtual minis) will have to be purchased.

Quote from: RPGPundit on August 28, 2024, 11:00:09 AMYou call essentially a two-part book (FR), an art book about dragons

It's not, in any way, an art book. Even the briefest of looks at the video shows that. Ten adventures, each featuring a different dragon.

Quoteand a rehash of the starter set "tons"?

They had 3-4 books/boxed sets per year before. They have more than that slated to come out now. If you were telling the truth, they would be reducing their number of books, not increasing it. But you were not telling the truth. You've entered the predicted spin phase of trying to cover for lying.

QuoteThe FR books are the only real thing there

Another lie. The dragon book is an adventure book. The boxed starter set has counted in every single edition of the game, by your reckoning as well in past years. Now it magically doesn't count because each adventure in it is an iconic adventure from the past? Did the other remakes over the years not count too? If they were going all digital, why would they even bother publishing a boxed set given it's expensive to do so as I am sure you know. The answer is you know damn well they're not going all digital. Because you were lying for clicks and got caught.

Quoteand would have been planned about two years ago, and given that 5e has never actually had a single true setting product, they're willing to gamble on a two-volume set about the Forgotten Realms actually maybe making them some money (of course, whether it will or not will depend on  how much they butcher it by filling it full of gay dwarves and strong overweight bipoc girl-bosses).

Meanwhile, they're promoting third party products they've made deals with on their VTT BECAUSE they don't want to product more published content.

Evidence for that claim is non-existent. Just like your claim they were going all digital based on them saying they were spending more money on digital. You did miss an opportunity though. You could have been in on this. You could have had your published products on DNDBeyond and their new VTT, exposed to a huge new audience. I personally would have enjoyed that and it would have drastically increased the odds I could talk my gaming groups into trying your stuff out. Instead, you chose this clickbait edgelord enshitification of D&D discussions. Did the clicks make up for the lost profits you could have made?

QuoteAnd incidentally, the VTT will be a subscription model with microtransactions to the point that the video reveals that even "tokens" (ie. virtual minis) will have to be purchased.

They don't say that either in the video. More of you just lying by claiming your speculation is reality.

You'll never admit you lied on this one. Particularly since your back is against the wall having called me out in your video (which was particularly low) but we can all see you were lying. Difference with this one is, since you called me out, I won't let you weasel out of it like I have in your past lies. This time, every book they come out with for years will be slammed over your head (metaphorically speaking). I am going to use this as the representative example for how your videos are clickbait lies, and then you never retroactively examine your prior claims to see if you were correct because they were often fabrications or speculations presented as fact which turned out to be wrong.

You will just spin, pretend you said something different from what you said, or that what you said shouldn't be taken literally or the way you said it but meant something else you gave no indication it was supposed to mean. And we will all know it for the lie it is. I expect most will let you off the hook, because it's the character you play online, and that's what I used to do too. But you know every response you give you're digging a reputation hole slightly deeper because it's lying, and you're too much of a coward to do what you know needs to be done and just rip that bandage off and admit you were lying for clicks.

This was dumb Pundit. You taking my criticism of your position personally was dumb. You knew it was not intended personally, you knew I had no beef with you, you knew I had agreed with you sometimes and not other times (and have gone to bat for you many times elsewhere, some of which I know you saw), but you decided to call me out in your video and claim I had some issue with you. So now I do. Don't pretend you didn't start this though. You surely deserve it.

Quote from: Nobleshield on August 26, 2024, 09:07:15 AMThey just went back on it, it seems.

https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1806-2024-d-d-beyond-ruleset-changelog-update

Mistwell,

Please care to explain the above link?

Quote from: Mistwell on August 28, 2024, 02:03:19 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit on August 28, 2024, 11:00:09 AMYou call essentially a two-part book (FR), an art book about dragons

It's not, in any way, an art book. Even the briefest of looks at the video shows that. Ten adventures, each featuring a different dragon.

Quoteand a rehash of the starter set "tons"?

They had 3-4 books/boxed sets per year before. They have more than that slated to come out now. If you were telling the truth, they would be reducing their number of books, not increasing it. But you were not telling the truth. You've entered the predicted spin phase of trying to cover for lying.

QuoteThe FR books are the only real thing there

Another lie. The dragon book is an adventure book. The boxed starter set has counted in every single edition of the game, by your reckoning as well in past years. Now it magically doesn't count because each adventure in it is an iconic adventure from the past? Did the other remakes over the years not count too? If they were going all digital, why would they even bother publishing a boxed set given it's expensive to do so as I am sure you know. The answer is you know damn well they're not going all digital. Because you were lying for clicks and got caught.

Quoteand would have been planned about two years ago, and given that 5e has never actually had a single true setting product, they're willing to gamble on a two-volume set about the Forgotten Realms actually maybe making them some money (of course, whether it will or not will depend on  how much they butcher it by filling it full of gay dwarves and strong overweight bipoc girl-bosses).

Meanwhile, they're promoting third party products they've made deals with on their VTT BECAUSE they don't want to product more published content.

Evidence for that claim is non-existent. Just like your claim they were going all digital based on them saying they were spending more money on digital. You did miss an opportunity though. You could have been in on this. You could have had your published products on DNDBeyond and their new VTT, exposed to a huge new audience. I personally would have enjoyed that and it would have drastically increased the odds I could talk my gaming groups into trying your stuff out. Instead, you chose this clickbait edgelord enshitification of D&D discussions. Did the clicks make up for the lost profits you could have made?

QuoteAnd incidentally, the VTT will be a subscription model with microtransactions to the point that the video reveals that even "tokens" (ie. virtual minis) will have to be purchased.

They don't say that either in the video. More of you just lying by claiming your speculation is reality.

You'll never admit you lied on this one. Particularly since your back is against the wall having called me out in your video (which was particularly low) but we can all see you were lying. Difference with this one is, since you called me out, I won't let you weasel out of it like I have in your past lies. This time, every book they come out with for years will be slammed over your head (metaphorically speaking). I am going to use this as the representative example for how your videos are clickbait lies, and then you never retroactively examine your prior claims to see if you were correct because they were often fabrications or speculations presented as fact which turned out to be wrong.

You will just spin, pretend you said something different from what you said, or that what you said shouldn't be taken literally or the way you said it but meant something else you gave no indication it was supposed to mean. And we will all know it for the lie it is. I expect most will let you off the hook, because it's the character you play online, and that's what I used to do too. But you know every response you give you're digging a reputation hole slightly deeper because it's lying, and you're too much of a coward to do what you know needs to be done and just rip that bandage off and admit you were lying for clicks.

This was dumb Pundit. You taking my criticism of your position personally was dumb. You knew it was not intended personally, you knew I had no beef with you, you knew I had agreed with you sometimes and not other times (and have gone to bat for you many times elsewhere, some of which I know you saw), but you decided to call me out in your video and claim I had some issue with you. So now I do. Don't pretend you didn't start this though. You surely deserve it.

...and yet you could have done the mature thing by contacting Pundit via PM and resolve things discretely, without fanfare or hostility.

Quote from: blackstone on August 28, 2024, 02:42:28 PM

Quote from: Nobleshield on August 26, 2024, 09:07:15 AMThey just went back on it, it seems.

https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1806-2024-d-d-beyond-ruleset-changelog-update

Mistwell,

Please care to explain the above link?

Sure, what do you want to know, and what does this have to do with the topic?

Quote from: blackstone on August 28, 2024, 03:23:15 PM...and yet you could have done the mature thing by contacting Pundit via PM and resolve things discretely, without fanfare or hostility.

He came after me, directly, in a video. The topic was raised to him by others in this thread. He continued to come after me in this thread directly. Why would it be on me to contact him discreetly to resolve it. Dude just started taking shots at me publicly, as a publisher and guy who runs this site, and it's on me to smooth things over?

I would LOVE to know what it would take for people to hold Pundit accountable for his asshattery here.

More details from the Starter Set, reinforcing this isn't just some reprint:

"Heroes of the Borderlands (working title) makes it easy to start playing D&D in minutes with a quick-start guide; intuitive, component-centric character creation; and a modular, introductory adventure. It reimagines B2: The Keep on the Borderlands—a classic introductory D&D adventure—for use with this boxed set by splitting the adventure into three self-contained booklets: the Caves of Chaos, the Keep on the Borderlands, and the Wilderness. Each booklet includes a short tutorial to help new and returning players learn as they go. A how-to-play video will also accompany the release."

Yeah, that's a new publication.

Quote from: Mistwell on August 28, 2024, 04:54:18 PMMore details from the Starter Set, reinforcing this isn't just some reprint:

Yeah, that's a new publication.

Might b actually worse if it is a "reimagining" as that is the codeword for "we slapped the title of a known IP on this thing we had laying around."