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WoTC Confirms All-in With VTT

Started by RPGPundit, August 07, 2024, 03:08:29 PM

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Exploderwizard

#90
August 25, 2024, 07:23:16 PM
Quote from: Brigman on August 25, 2024, 12:18:29 PMYeah, that seems to be confirmed.  STUPID move on their part.  In trying to "force" people to use the 2024 rules, they will drive people away, moreso than they already were...

Especially since they have been trying so hard to convice everyone that the rule sets are totally compatible. "Hey all you folks currently in the midst of a 2014 5E campaign, fuck you!"  This ought to be fun to watch.
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Quote from: Kyle Aaron;766997In the randomness of the dice lies the seed for the great oak of creativity and fun. The great virtue of the dice is that they come without boxed text.

Omega

#91
August 26, 2024, 12:47:58 AM
Well as with 4e. wotc's stupid may well end up being someone elses windfall.

We all knew they were going to do this.

I just never expected them to pull it befor the horse is even fully out the gate.

RPGPundit

#93
August 26, 2024, 12:17:14 PM
LOL. Their great ambitions keep getting thwarted by not understanding what their own fans want.
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GeekyBugle

#94
August 26, 2024, 12:28:25 PM
Quote from: Nobleshield on August 26, 2024, 09:07:15 AMThey just went back on it, it seems.

https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1806-2024-d-d-beyond-ruleset-changelog-update

Which tells us two things:

They got massive backlash from their own paypigs.

Not many of those paypigs are thinking of switching to 6e.
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Brigman

#95
August 26, 2024, 01:31:23 PM
They really can't win when they do stupid shit like this.  They either stick to their guns and lose folks to the backlash, or backpedal and get mocked for showing their belly. 

I had and have no plans to adopt or buy in to 2024's rules.  But some of my young(er) players lean on D&D Beyond for their character sheets in my 5e game, so this will make them happy.
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Chris24601

#96
August 26, 2024, 02:14:58 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 26, 2024, 12:28:25 PM
Quote from: Nobleshield on August 26, 2024, 09:07:15 AMThey just went back on it, it seems.

https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1806-2024-d-d-beyond-ruleset-changelog-update

Which tells us two things:

They got massive backlash from their own paypigs.

Not many of those paypigs are thinking of switching to 6e.
I think it might be slightly more accurate to say "Not many of those paypigs are thinking of changing their rules to 6e in the middle of a campaign... they'll wait until the current one is over and decide then."

That's literally the case for the 5e campaign I'm currently playing in... the GM has said "we're not changing rules mid-campaign. We'll look at it for the next campaign (which means 2026 at the earliest)."

GeekyBugle

#97
August 26, 2024, 02:19:31 PM
Quote from: Chris24601 on August 26, 2024, 02:14:58 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 26, 2024, 12:28:25 PM
Quote from: Nobleshield on August 26, 2024, 09:07:15 AMThey just went back on it, it seems.

https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1806-2024-d-d-beyond-ruleset-changelog-update

Which tells us two things:

They got massive backlash from their own paypigs.

Not many of those paypigs are thinking of switching to 6e.
I think it might be slightly more accurate to say "Not many of those paypigs are thinking of changing their rules to 6e in the middle of a campaign... they'll wait until the current one is over and decide then."

That's literally the case for the 5e campaign I'm currently playing in... the GM has said "we're not changing rules mid-campaign. We'll look at it for the next campaign (which means 2026 at the earliest)."

A game so "simple" you NEED automated character sheets to play it.

Think I'll stick to AD&D/Basic (or retroclones/games that use those rules) thanks.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Exploderwizard

#98
August 26, 2024, 03:07:12 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 26, 2024, 02:19:31 PM
Quote from: Chris24601 on August 26, 2024, 02:14:58 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 26, 2024, 12:28:25 PM
Quote from: Nobleshield on August 26, 2024, 09:07:15 AMThey just went back on it, it seems.

https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1806-2024-d-d-beyond-ruleset-changelog-update

Which tells us two things:

They got massive backlash from their own paypigs.

Not many of those paypigs are thinking of switching to 6e.
I think it might be slightly more accurate to say "Not many of those paypigs are thinking of changing their rules to 6e in the middle of a campaign... they'll wait until the current one is over and decide then."

That's literally the case for the 5e campaign I'm currently playing in... the GM has said "we're not changing rules mid-campaign. We'll look at it for the next campaign (which means 2026 at the earliest)."

A game so "simple" you NEED automated character sheets to play it.

Think I'll stick to AD&D/Basic (or retroclones/games that use those rules) thanks.

Yeah after the headach that was 4E I swore off running anything that required software to prep or play.
Quote from: JonWakeGamers, as a whole, are much like primitive cavemen when confronted with a new game. Rather than \'oh, neat, what\'s this do?\', the reaction is to decide if it\'s a sex hole, then hit it with a rock.

Quote from: Old Geezer;724252At some point it seems like D&D is going to disappear up its own ass.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;766997In the randomness of the dice lies the seed for the great oak of creativity and fun. The great virtue of the dice is that they come without boxed text.

Theory of Games

#99
August 26, 2024, 03:07:46 PM Last Edit: August 26, 2024, 03:11:21 PM by Theory of Games
So that's it. We got 50 years of Dungeons & Dragons books. End of an era, right?





























So many years and so many games.



TTRPGs are just games. Friends are forever.

Chris24601

#100
August 26, 2024, 07:08:29 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 26, 2024, 02:19:31 PMA game so "simple" you NEED automated character sheets to play it.

Think I'll stick to AD&D/Basic (or retroclones/games that use those rules) thanks.
To be fair, I don't use D&D Beyond and had zero problems running a full caster all the way to level 20 with a character sheet I made on Microsoft Word (because my actual handwriting is chicken scratch). Its NOT actually a hard system, some people just use automated bits because they're there rather than because they really need them.

"It's Official" is stupid, but its a real thing.

If anything, 5e errs on the side of too simple for my preferences.

RPGPundit

#101
August 26, 2024, 10:11:22 PM
there's more D&D now than there ever was. There are hundreds of D&D games now. Its just called the OSR, not Hasbro.
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NOW AVAILABLE: AoI in print form

LORDS OF OLYMPUS
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Armchair Gamer

#102
August 27, 2024, 01:01:30 PM
It sounds like WotC is going to keep on making print books through the end of next year at least, based on the news from today's "Direct." https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1807-d-d-direct-recap-a-look-at-two-forgotten-realms

But even if I hadn't given up on WotC years ago, this art from the top of the article (and apparently the 2024 PHB) would be enough to scare me away:

GeekyBugle

#103
August 27, 2024, 01:12:37 PM
Quote from: Armchair Gamer on August 27, 2024, 01:01:30 PMIt sounds like WotC is going to keep on making print books through the end of next year at least, based on the news from today's "Direct." https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1807-d-d-direct-recap-a-look-at-two-forgotten-realms

But even if I hadn't given up on WotC years ago, this art from the top of the article (and apparently the 2024 PHB) would be enough to scare me away:



Besides all the gayness it exudes someone needs to teach the artist how to hold that hammer, that's not how you do it.

Pay close attention to the right hand's orientation. It's holding the hammer as if it was a spear.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Omega

#104
August 27, 2024, 02:28:14 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 27, 2024, 01:12:37 PMBesides all the gayness it exudes someone needs to teach the artist how to hold that hammer, that's not how you do it.

Pay close attention to the right hand's orientation. It's holding the hammer as if it was a spear.

Not sure. But think that is a actual hammer hold there. You slide the far hand down to the handle hand as you build momentum. It still looks off or at least awkward.

But a quick search and colour me surprised when yah is how you handle it.

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