WotC just can't help it; even in their Infomercial for their 50th Anniversary 'memberberries Merch, they have to ATTACK early D&D and its creators.
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wotc just had to virtue signal.

"Look! Look at us! We are so virtuous!"

I think it is pathetically hilarious that they go on about how horrible OD&D is because the people involved were "all male, and all white" while both presenters are male and white. Oh the irony. I hope wotc cans their worthless asses next corporate purge.

Quote from: Omega on February 20, 2024, 01:13:43 AM
wotc just had to virtue signal.

"Look! Look at us! We are so virtuous!"

I think it is pathetically hilarious that they go on about how horrible OD&D is because the people involved were "all male, and all white" while both presenters are male and white. Oh the irony. I hope wotc cans their worthless asses next corporate purge.

Not only that but WOTC just loves to brag about how inclusive they are. Then they turn around and EXCLUDE early D&D when defining what D&D really is.  Inclusive. I do not think it means what they think it means.

Quote from: Exploderwizard on February 20, 2024, 08:07:23 AMNot only that but WOTC just loves to brag about how inclusive they are. Then they turn around and EXCLUDE early D&D when defining what D&D really is.  Inclusive. I do not think it means what they think it means.

"Inclusion" has always meant "We now get to decide who is excluded." That's true for everyone that uses the term.

We aren't the customers for the product.  Some actual D&D fans may accidentally buy it, but the people WotC are aiming for with it are the people for whom a sly, "Oh, well there's NO WAY we'd approve of this game now..." is a positive rather than a negative.  Because if those evil old white dudes were featured in a book and their work was uncritically praised, there's no way they could own such a dark, problematic item.  It would be right up there with having Mein Kampf on the coffee table.

Quote from: RPGPundit on February 19, 2024, 11:11:02 PM
WotC just can't help it; even in their Infomercial for their 50th Anniversary 'memberberries Merch, they have to ATTACK early D&D and its creators.

In other news; the Sun rises in the East, fire is hot, and water is wet.

Anyone still getting outraged by what WotC is doing at this point is just looking for a dopamine hit.

Sane people have long ago stopped paying attention to their antics entirely.

Quote from: Chris24601 on February 20, 2024, 04:33:44 PM
Anyone still getting outraged by what WotC is doing at this point is just looking for a dopamine hit.

Sane people have long ago stopped paying attention to their antics entirely.

Yep. Now we just have to wait for everyone to quit talking about WotC all the time.

It looks like the "D&D history" was written by Jon Peterson. I wonder what would be different in that book than what is in his recently published "Game Wizards".

Of course Wizards of the Coast can't resist reminding their "fans" that all D&D books published before 2014 are "problematic." They've been doing it in the disclaimer to their "legacy content" on DriveThruRPG for years, while continuing to sell those products. This is no different.

The whole thing reminds me of Fate of Cthulhu from Evil Hat, which begins with a multi-page screed condemning H.P. Lovecraft (and anyone who enjoys his work) as an unrepentant racist and admonishing the reader against actually enjoying the stories without which the game they're peddling WOULD NOT EXIST.

Apparently, it's okay to profit off the imagination and talent of people you claim are abhorrent, as long as you condemn them loudly enough.

Quote from: Angus MacDeth on February 20, 2024, 06:28:26 PM
Of course Wizards of the Coast can't resist reminding their "fans" that all D&D books published before 2014 are "problematic."

[Puts on Dr. Evil's, #2 man face mask] That too, has happened. WOTC is now calling their own 5th edition product problematic which is why they are doing a crapola revised edition this year.

Quote from: Chris24601 on February 20, 2024, 04:33:44 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit on February 19, 2024, 11:11:02 PM
WotC just can't help it; even in their Infomercial for their 50th Anniversary 'memberberries Merch, they have to ATTACK early D&D and its creators.

In other news; the Sun rises in the East, fire is hot, and water is wet.

Anyone still getting outraged by what WotC is doing at this point is just looking for a dopamine hit.

Sane people have long ago stopped paying attention to their antics entirely.

Greetings!

Right on, Chris! I agree very much.

It admittedly feels kind of strange being so disconnected about WOTC. After all, I have been a loyal customer and fan of TSR since the beginning, and even WOTC since they arrived and established themselves. That is literally *decades*--and even 20 years for WOTC as the comany and steward of D&D.

WOTC's technical, game design, publishing, and marketing failures over the last recent years have been more than sufficient to destroy the relationship. However, I do not ignore or forgive the evil, hate-filled, Marxist philosophies that WOTC have embraced.

I also admit that it feels weird watching a company become hostile, offensive, and even provocatively hateful towards their long-standing fans and customers. I simply realize though that this company, just like so many other companies, have become overthrown by Marxist Globalist, Woke cultists. These assorted people are disposed towards chaos, destruction, and degenerate perversion in everything they do.

So, yeah. Fuck 'em.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

There's a Twitch streamer that I've been catching snippets of in YT shorts.  He was an employee at Blizzard and he talked about it's fall from being a great games company.   Blizzard started to suck at the same rate that their core designers left.  All of those designers went on to create great games afterwards but Blizzard fell off a cliff.  "Follow creators, not companies."

"Follow creators, not companies."

That advice was also of great help back when I still actively collected comics as well.

These days, if I'm running I have stable of genre-specific homebrew and other preferred systems that I pull from.

I haven't bought a thing from WotC since before 5e was a thing, and have never had nearly the connection to D&D many here did so the company's already been dead to me for probably as long as I've been posting here.

Quote from: SHARK on February 21, 2024, 05:34:22 AM

It admittedly feels kind of strange being so disconnected about WOTC. After all, I have been a loyal customer and fan of TSR since the beginning, and even WOTC since they arrived and established themselves. That is literally *decades*--and even 20 years for WOTC as the comany and steward of D&D.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

I guess you mustn't have been a Games Workshop or Steve Jackson Games fan.

Quote from: SHARK on February 21, 2024, 05:34:22 AM

Quote from: Chris24601 on February 20, 2024, 04:33:44 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit on February 19, 2024, 11:11:02 PM
WotC just can't help it; even in their Infomercial for their 50th Anniversary 'memberberries Merch, they have to ATTACK early D&D and its creators.

In other news; the Sun rises in the East, fire is hot, and water is wet.

Anyone still getting outraged by what WotC is doing at this point is just looking for a dopamine hit.

Sane people have long ago stopped paying attention to their antics entirely.

Dude, don't you want to play the dwarfiest of dwarfs, the elfiest of elfs?  I mean we are talking full twink elfs in chaps and DSL's all for 10 year old D&D players that WotC is totally going to get to pay for their VTT?

Hsabro is going Sears in 2 years watch.

Greetings!

Right on, Chris! I agree very much.

It admittedly feels kind of strange being so disconnected about WOTC. After all, I have been a loyal customer and fan of TSR since the beginning, and even WOTC since they arrived and established themselves. That is literally *decades*--and even 20 years for WOTC as the comany and steward of D&D.

WOTC's technical, game design, publishing, and marketing failures over the last recent years have been more than sufficient to destroy the relationship. However, I do not ignore or forgive the evil, hate-filled, Marxist philosophies that WOTC have embraced.

I also admit that it feels weird watching a company become hostile, offensive, and even provocatively hateful towards their long-standing fans and customers. I simply realize though that this company, just like so many other companies, have become overthrown by Marxist Globalist, Woke cultists. These assorted people are disposed towards chaos, destruction, and degenerate perversion in everything they do.

So, yeah. Fuck 'em.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK