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Worst Old School Art?

Started by Voros, May 28, 2017, 04:57:29 PM

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Christopher Brady

#90
June 10, 2017, 04:07:58 AM
Quote from: Baulderstone;966086I started with Moldvay. No question that Elmore's cover is cooler than Otus', but I think Otus' cover feels more like D&D with a small party working together instead of a lone hero charging in.

The original sketch for Elmore's cover does look much more D&D-like, but the image they went with probably was the right choice to be eye-catching on the shelf.

I think they should have went with that one.  The one warrior vs. the dragon thing is a bit dishonest, not to mention that D&D has always been about the group of specialists, rather than the lone hero vs the odds.
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Voros

#91
June 10, 2017, 05:30:22 AM
It wouldn't have had thr punch and icongraphic power. Gygax made the right call, it was about eyeballs and that cover, in addition to the whole layout and look of the set, no doubt contributed to it being the number one seller ever for TSR.

S'mon

#92
June 10, 2017, 09:00:36 AM
Quote from: Voros;967490It wouldn't have had thr punch and icongraphic power. Gygax made the right call, it was about eyeballs and that cover, in addition to the whole layout and look of the set, no doubt contributed to it being the number one seller ever for TSR.

I agree - and solo-PC Fighter campaigns are certainly doable in D&D, I've run several.

soltakss

#93
June 10, 2017, 11:01:58 AM
Quote from: Dumarest;965342Based on that, you could drop the last word from that sentence. Check the calves, biceps, thighs, etc. None of it is correct.

Why should it be correct? It looks good, to me, so why should I care if it is anatomically correct?
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soltakss

#94
June 10, 2017, 11:04:24 AM
I liked all the artwork included in this thread.

However, I am surprised that nobody has included the RQ3 artwork that attracted so much criticism in its time.
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Dumarest

#95
June 10, 2017, 10:03:03 PM
Quote from: soltakss;967533Why should it be correct? It looks good, to me, so why should I care if it is anatomically correct?

Where did I say it should be correct? Where did I say you should care? You're inferring things and jumping to conclusions. I was merely pointing out what a lousy artist he is. There is a difference between Jack Kirby discarding correct anatomy that he learned and a clown who never learned to draw the human figure in the first place.

Christopher Brady

#96
June 11, 2017, 12:51:05 AM
Quote from: Dumarest;967627Where did I say it should be correct? Where did I say you should care? You're inferring things and jumping to conclusions. I was merely pointing out what a lousy artist he is. There is a difference between Jack Kirby discarding correct anatomy that he learned and a clown who never learned to draw the human figure in the first place.

You're right but very few non-artists will notice it unless it's clearly bad
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crkrueger

#97
June 11, 2017, 12:54:00 AM
My favorite basic cover is Holmes, I just always liked the look of that Dragon.  Yeah the wings were small but I liked the head and pose.



Otus's cover is more abstract than Elmore, but I liked how the Basic and Expert Set went together...



As far as the Elmore cover, the group one is better I think.  It makes me think of the Willingham Frontpiece.  This is always what D&D was to me...

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crkrueger

#98
June 11, 2017, 12:56:28 AM
Quote from: soltakss;967534I liked all the artwork included in this thread.

However, I am surprised that nobody has included the RQ3 artwork that attracted so much criticism in its time.

You mean this...?


People had a problem with that?
Even the the "cutting edge" storygamers for all their talk of narrative, plot, and drama are fucking obsessed with the god damned rules they use. - Estar

Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

Isuldur is a badass because he stopped Sauron with a broken sword, but Iluvatar is the badass because he stopped Sauron with a hobbit. -Malleus Arianorum

"Tangency Edition" D&D would have no classes or races, but 17 genders to choose from. -TristramEvans

S'mon

#99
June 11, 2017, 05:27:44 AM
Quote from: CRKrueger;967662You mean this...?


People had a problem with that?

I'm guessing it was the painted-on bikini cover of Runequest 2e?

crkrueger

#100
June 11, 2017, 06:45:52 AM
Quote from: S'mon;967690I'm guessing it was the painted-on bikini cover of Runequest 2e?

Hmm, I thought this was first...


...and this was second...


Now I see the Games Workshop 2nd, Holy Balls that's bad...


Maybe he's talking about these, these are GW 3rd.

Those look pretty good I think.

Not a big fan of the newest RuneQuest...


I think RQ6/Mythras is much better.
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Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

Isuldur is a badass because he stopped Sauron with a broken sword, but Iluvatar is the badass because he stopped Sauron with a hobbit. -Malleus Arianorum

"Tangency Edition" D&D would have no classes or races, but 17 genders to choose from. -TristramEvans

S'mon

#101
June 11, 2017, 07:18:53 AM
Quote from: CRKrueger;967706Now I see the Games Workshop 2nd, Holy Balls that's bad...


Maybe he's talking about these, these are GW 3rd.

Yeah those are the ones I have. Rules-wise the 2e version looks much better, 3e is far far too fiddly with its encumbrance & fatigue point rules. I heard somewhere the 2e pic was drawn topless then the publisher made the artist draw a bikini on, which is why it looks so bad.

soltakss

#102
June 11, 2017, 07:25:48 AM
Quote from: CRKrueger;967662You mean this...?


People had a problem with that?

Nope.

Quote from: S'mon;967690I'm guessing it was the painted-on bikini cover of Runequest 2e?

Nope again.

The art for Troll Gods/Elder Secrets contains a lot of howlers.






Some of it is OK, but some of it, well, isn't.
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DavetheLost

#103
June 11, 2017, 08:03:06 AM
Yeah, it's the RQ3 interior art. The covers were generally nice, but some of the interior pieces...0D&D called, it wants its art back.

S'mon

#104
June 11, 2017, 04:48:07 PM
Quote from: DavetheLost;967712Yeah, it's the RQ3 interior art. The covers were generally nice, but some of the interior pieces...0D&D called, it wants its art back.

Ah, I only have the GW 3e version, with loads of excellent GW art! :)
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