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Worst Old School Art?

Started by Voros, May 28, 2017, 04:57:29 PM

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fearsomepirate

Yeah, he has a style, and rather vivid, eye-catching one at that (which is why he's hung around so long). But I wouldn't consider his need to always hide feet, his total incomprehension of how a bicep works, or star-crotches to be essential parts of it. His work would only be improved with better anatomy.
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fearsomepirate

Quote from: Elfdart;966186Like multitudes of other fucktards, you can't distinguish between your own personal likes and dislikes on one hand, and objective facts on the other. Where a muscle attaches to bone (or to ligaments that attach to bone) is a matter of fact. How well an artist depicts something that does not exist, never did exist and never will exist is a matter of opinion.

Biceps and feet exist in the real world, idiot.
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Quote from: fearsomepirate;966189Biceps and feet exist in the real world, idiot.

You mean that guy's superpower isn't to have a completely deformed torso yet stll be able to move? :D  
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fearsomepirate

Wait, you mean I can't achieve that? My trainer LIED to me.
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Quote from: fearsomepirate;966193Wait, you mean I can't achieve that? My trainer LIED to me.

Don't you even P-90x17 bro?
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Quote from: CRKrueger;964953Yeah, but do you see the Giant Spider in the tree?  I know people who have had the damn thing for 40 years and never saw the spider. :D

Up until you pointed it out I never did notice the Spider in the tree. It's funny how the mind and sight works sometimes.

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Those Dragonlance covers are a case of great skill applied to make a boring end product. They are all tourist photos. Elmore has done some great fantasy art, but he got stuck doing a lot of stagey, boring paintings. I suspect the Dragonlance covers are exactly what the art director asked for, so I think he probably did the best he could with the assignment in this case.

Elfdart

Quote from: fearsomepirate;966189Biceps and feet exist in the real world, idiot.

Not the ones belonging to comic book characters, moron.

Apparently, you think comic book characters are real people. Another reason you're one dumb twat.
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Quote from: Zirunel;966012And the winner? Not one of Trampier's, but Sutherland's night hag. Anybody else remember this? Anyway, Sutherland could be very good at times.

The Night Hag is evocative for sure.

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I definitely agree that a lot of the 2e art, though technically superior to a lot of the 1e art, was usually far more soulless.

That said, there were some pieces of old-school art that people claim were amazing due to nostalgia, that if looked at objectively were just bad art.
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Depends, Erol Otus is often sniffed at but his style fits very much in with the underground comix style of Clay S. Wilson, Crumb, etc.

fearsomepirate

Otus' drawings are really something else. There's a lot to be said for the impression visuals give you, and Otus' works definitely don't convey the same impression to me that Elmore, Easley, etc do. Kinda wonder where things would have gone if he'd set the visual style for the overall line of products.

I'm flipping through my 1e MM, and the only Sutherland drawings I've found that I think are worth a damn are the Frost Giant and Clay Golem so far. The elemenals aren't bad. It's hard for me to name a favorite Trampier sketch, but it's probably either the Intellect Devourer or the Remorhaz.

2e's MM has pretty bad art. Definitely not a big fan of Elmore's portrait-style paintings. They're nice, but boring. However, the cover of Mentzer Basic is so good that he could have just drawn stick figures for everything else and still be one of my favorites.

Not old-school, but the 3rd edition drawings are overrated. They have a lot of detail, but they're surprisingly bad once you get past the initial impression of "Hey, wow, these are so much cooler than those half-assed sketches in the 2e books!"
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DavetheLost

Check out the cover of 1e Metamorphosis Alpha. It is sort of charmingly bad.