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Worst Old School Art?

Started by Voros, May 28, 2017, 04:57:29 PM

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Larsdangly

#30
May 30, 2017, 01:16:26 PM
Hating on 'Paladin in Hell'?!? That belongs in the 'Best Old School Art' thread, not this one.

Christopher Brady

#31
May 30, 2017, 02:11:43 PM
Quote from: Larsdangly;965307Hating on 'Paladin in Hell'?!? That belongs in the 'Best Old School Art' thread, not this one.

Art is subjective.  It's not right nor wrong to hate on a style that doesn't appeal to you.  If you don't like that you're favourite piece is not universally loved, that's really too bad.
"And now, my friends, a Dragon\'s toast!  To life\'s little blessings:  wars, plagues and all forms of evil.  Their presence keeps us alert --- and their absence makes us grateful." -T.A. Barron[/SIZE]

Dumarest

#32
May 30, 2017, 02:13:55 PM
Quote from: Larsdangly;965307Hating on 'Paladin in Hell'?!? That belongs in the 'Best Old School Art' thread, not this one.

Paladin in Hell was  a page I kept turning back to all the time as a kid.

Dumarest

#33
May 30, 2017, 02:15:04 PM
Quote from: Just Another Snake Cult;965144When the slick art in more recent editions of D&D tries to take the goofball anything-goes monsters of the 1st Ed Monster Manual and depict them "Realistically" it's somehow more absurd and laughable than the original. There is no such thing as a non-goofy rust monster.

100% correct.

Dumarest

#34
May 30, 2017, 02:17:04 PM
Quote from: Christopher Brady;965295I agree.  I don't how it's considered iconic when he doesn't even have the basics of anatomy.  It's a cool concept, I'll grant it that, and the armour looks authentic, if awkward.

Jack Kirby is iconic and his anatomy post-1960s was (to put it politely) highly stylized. One has nothing to do with the other.

fearsomepirate

#35
May 30, 2017, 02:35:35 PM
Quote from: Dumarest;965329Paladin in Hell was  a page I kept turning back to all the time as a kid.

I think if something looked great to you as a kid, you'll always see it with different eyes than adults who see it for the first time. And Sutherland's poses aren't so much "stylized" as they are "awkward, stiff, and unnatural."
Every time I think the Forgotten Realms can\'t be a dumber setting, I get proven to be an unimaginative idiot.

Whitewings

#36
May 30, 2017, 02:40:23 PM
Quote from: fearsomepirate;965306Like I know that Rob Liefeld is objectively a bad artist

That's the saddest part about him: he's not a bad artist. He's a very lazy artist. When he can be made to give it his all, his artwork is quite amazingly good. I know; I have in my digital library an example of Liefeld at his best. It's called "Armageddon Now," and you can find a preview on Comixology or just do an image search on the title with the addition of "Liefeld."

fearsomepirate

#37
May 30, 2017, 02:50:29 PM
I see "learn to draw feet" is still on his to-do list.

Every time I think the Forgotten Realms can\'t be a dumber setting, I get proven to be an unimaginative idiot.

Christopher Brady

#38
May 30, 2017, 03:04:10 PM
Quote from: Whitewings;965337That's the saddest part about him: he's not a bad artist. He's a very lazy artist. When he can be made to give it his all, his artwork is quite amazingly good. I know; I have in my digital library an example of Liefeld at his best. It's called "Armageddon Now," and you can find a preview on Comixology or just do an image search on the title with the addition of "Liefeld."

A lot of the issues people have with him in the comics are also the fault of his inkers and colourists.  Also, here's the thing of being a comic art director, you want three things in an artist:  Good to work with, on time and skilled at their craft.  However, they have to settle for two of those three.

From what I heard, Leifield is on time, and nice guy.
"And now, my friends, a Dragon\'s toast!  To life\'s little blessings:  wars, plagues and all forms of evil.  Their presence keeps us alert --- and their absence makes us grateful." -T.A. Barron[/SIZE]

Shawn Driscoll

#39
May 30, 2017, 03:23:44 PM
Quote from: Dumarest;9650601977 Traveller may not be familiar to you but the only "human art" is a portrait of a Van Rijn-like merchant and it's quite good.
I had that book. Maybe 2 other clip arts were in it. No one bought that edition for the art in it (because of no-art, basically).

Dumarest

#40
May 30, 2017, 03:30:04 PM
Quote from: fearsomepirate;965335I think if something looked great to you as a kid, you'll always see it with different eyes than adults who see it for the first time. And Sutherland's poses aren't so much "stylized" as they are "awkward, stiff, and unnatural."

I never said it looked great.

Dumarest

#41
May 30, 2017, 03:30:57 PM
Quote from: fearsomepirate;965338I see "learn to draw feet" is still on his to-do list.


Based on that, you could drop the last word from that sentence. Check the calves, biceps, thighs, etc. None of it is correct.

Shawn Driscoll

#42
May 30, 2017, 04:15:28 PM
People need to look at their old RPG books and view the artwork in them without nostalgia doing its mind-control.

fearsomepirate

#43
May 30, 2017, 04:24:41 PM
Quote from: Dumarest;965342Based on that, you could drop the last word from that sentence. Check the calves, biceps, thighs, etc. None of it is correct.

You mean your bicep doesn't connect directly to your forearm?
Every time I think the Forgotten Realms can\'t be a dumber setting, I get proven to be an unimaginative idiot.

Christopher Brady

#44
May 30, 2017, 05:43:39 PM
Quote from: fearsomepirate;965354You mean your bicep doesn't connect directly to your forearm?

I hope so!  Cuz if it doesn't then he's a deformed mutant!  And he can't move his arms!
"And now, my friends, a Dragon\'s toast!  To life\'s little blessings:  wars, plagues and all forms of evil.  Their presence keeps us alert --- and their absence makes us grateful." -T.A. Barron[/SIZE]
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