3rd-party has already formed for PF2.

Why wouldn't they?

Quote from: trechriron;1098019Having now purchased and read (half read half skim) PF2, I think the concern was highly over-inflated.

This is a fine game. The refinements are cool. It will play faster than PF1, makes more sense, and is more consistent.

I think once people unclench their buttholes they will find a great game that will give them all the PF(ery) goodness they always loved.

Once again, our imaginations far overstepped reality (I too was worried...). Which is not unusual for a bunch of RPGers. :-D

To Wit: There won't be much. The smart money is on supporting PF2. All it really needs is a couple hot fan-made character sheets.

I've skimmed no less than 3 RPGs this weekend that are also fine if not better.

"Fine" RPGs with pretty books at high build quality are plentiful. What Paizo will do is support their product. That's the unique factor.

Quote from: Rhedyn;1098170What Paizo will do is support their product.

Looks like they'll be supporting the shit out of it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Pathfinder2e/comments/clnu15/paizo_gencon_announcements/

Way more material than WotC put out for 5E in its first year.

Question whats is even the diferance in pf2e?

Quote from: kosmos1214;1098173Question whats is even the diferance in pf2e?

https://www.therpgsite.com/showthread.php?40838-Pathfinder-2-Electric-Boogaloo&p=1097918&viewfull=1#post1097918

I'd love to see more support for Palladium Fantasy 1e, or even 2e.

Quote from: Shasarak;1097964Everyone knows that Who's on first.

Quote from: jeff37923;1097966What's on second.

When takes it in the ass. And Don's into vampirism.

On a more serious note, I would love to see more third-party support for PF 1E.

Especially if someone made a deliberately "un-woke" third-party setting based on the PF1 rules.

Convert, young Skywalker. Only now do you realize the power of the Dark Side.

PF2 is the place for you.

Quote from: The_Shadow;1098190I'd love to see more support for Palladium Fantasy 1e, or even 2e.

With Palladium Books being very backwards and no version of an OGL in place with the company. As well as the system no longer being as popular with the fans it will not happen.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1098189https://www.therpgsite.com/showthread.php?40838-Pathfinder-2-Electric-Boogaloo&p=1097918&viewfull=1#post1097918

Ill dig more when i have a bit more time but if the enworld links are the crux of your anwser they be dead.

Quote from: kosmos1214;1098995Ill dig more when i have a bit more time but if the enworld links are the crux of your anwser they be dead.

they should work now

The main hurdles for the serious competition is going to be imo"

Production values. Pathfinder 1E has some decent production values and any serious competition is going to need to have as good if not better imo.

A reason to convert over or at the very release by the new support in large numbers. Purple Duck Studios seems to be the only one hampered by a truly terrible name for their rpg. When translated amounts to coldwater seaweed the rpg. It is nice to be different not when it just sounds weird and well named after coldwater seaweed.

Rpg gamers are notoriously fucking cheap. In same case being cheaper than cheap. They will demand PF 1E support in the same amount as Paizo yet not expect to pay a dime or expect that it cost the same when they last entered a LGS. Which was probably sometime in 1980.

More importantly capital and the enough of it to hire the proper people to draw, create, and print the rpg.

Quote from: The_Shadow;1098190I'd love to see more support for Palladium Fantasy 1e, or even 2e.

The Rifters have done a decent job supporting 2e.

I had hoped Palladium would have put out a 30th anniversary version of PF 1e and allowed fan support. There are plenty of us would love to support 1e.

I would love to see an open license like the OGL for Palladium Books various  lPs  it simply will not happen not Kevin running the show. An opportunity lost as Kevin takes every opportunity to miss an opportunity.

Rifts 30th anniversary is approaching soon and they can't even release the Rifts Bestiary on time which was mostly copy and paste. I just don't think collectively as a whole the company has a willingness to try domething.

Meanwhile Savage Rifts and Torg Eternity are takomg away sales and fans.

Quote from: Theory of Games;1098254Convert, young Skywalker. Only now do you realize the power of the Dark Side.

PF2 is the place for you.

No.  Pathfinder 2E is Not the place for me.  I Don't like building characters via Feats.  That's what 2E is all about.

Feats remind me of super heroes, and that's not what I want in a medieval fantasy game.  Wrong genre emulation for me.