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Why Is BRP Not More Popular?

Started by Thanos, December 06, 2017, 07:49:40 PM

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Quote from: DavetheLost;1018270But we never said "Let's play BRP," the way we said "let's play GURPS".
It is a consequence of how Chaosium decided to market their RPG. Chaosium consistently focused on marketing each game by themselves.

The same with Hero System. At first their was Champions, then a bunch of games based on the same mechanics. Finally when 4th edition rolls around we get a Hero System rulebook of some kind. But it wasn't until 5th edition that the HERO system rulebook became the core book to use.

GURPS was the first RPGs be designed and marketed with generic rules being the core rule book. Even then 1st and 2nd edition core books were more oriented towards fantasy.

Toadmaster

Quote from: estar;1018301It is a consequence of how Chaosium decided to market their RPG. Chaosium consistently focused on marketing each game by themselves.

The same with Hero System. At first their was Champions, then a bunch of games based on the same mechanics. Finally when 4th edition rolls around we get a Hero System rulebook of some kind. But it wasn't until 5th edition that the HERO system rulebook became the core book to use.

GURPS was the first RPGs be designed and marketed with generic rules being the core rule book. Even then 1st and 2nd edition core books were more oriented towards fantasy.

There was a 4th ed Champions book, but 4th ed also got a stand alone generic core book which is what everybody used that didn't do supers. The 4th ed non-champions supplements all referenced the 4th ed core book.

1st and 2nd ed GURPS only had a fantasy bias because when released that is all there was (2nd ed basically just being errata corrections). It still included rules for other genres, just most flavor text and examples were fantasy oriented. Autoduel was the second or third release, followed by Space so they definitely had other than fantasy on their mind.

AsenRG

Quote from: Dirk Remmecke;1018288In France BRP is known as BaSIC, thanks to Casus Belli.

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In the 90s the magazine published a series of special editions ("hors série") that were either settings (the city of Laelith), or complete RPGs (the generic game SimulacreS, several genre-versions of SimulacreS, the sci fi game Mega III, and BaSiC), or collections of short adventures.

Complete RPGs to be found at the newsstand, for the price of a magazine.
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Yeah, and it's no surprise some of my favourite games are French ones - Kuro, Qin, Bloodlust and Le Pavillon Noir, for example. Only problem is, I can't get anyone in my group to run them, because only I read the language;).

BTW, when I was learning BRP, I used BaSIC as a "short variant" of the basic rules, and then the people that introduced me helped me with the chargen for the specific game:D!
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Quote from: RPGPundit;1018227Yeah, it's funny but "BRP" as an abbreviation is not as well known as D&D.  It's the "Call of Cthulhu" system for some people.

Back in the '80s, my gaming circle always called it the Chaosium system.

TrippyHippy

People in my circles generally just called it the 'percentile system'. To be honest, back when I started, there was little discussion of systems as brands, just individual games with similar systems. Percentile mechanics were generally considered the best thing since sliced bread at the time too.
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Vile Traveller

#350
We just called it RuneQuest, because that's what we were using - not to play RQ in Glorantha, except at the very start, but to play in virtually any setting we could think of. Each of the "BRP" systems is sufficiently different from one another that it's a stretch to call any of them BRP. That's why the Big Gold Book version ended up so big. I think Chaosium got people to call it the Big Gold Book, IIRC the acronym was originally BYB as in "Big Yellow Brick".

Simlasa

Quote from: Vile;1018689IIRC the acronym was originally BYB as in "Big Yellow Brick".
I don't remember that one. I adopted BGB as I saw others using it but I otherwise would have just said, "The BRP book."
In the early days we just called it 'Runequest' too... despite not using Glorantha either... because most people had heard of it. It's still more common knowledge than 'BRP'.

Dumarest

I've never heard anyone call it the BYB until today.

Toadmaster

Quote from: Simlasa;1018703I don't remember that one. I adopted BGB as I saw others using it but I otherwise would have just said, "The BRP book."
In the early days we just called it 'Runequest' too... despite not using Glorantha either... because most people had heard of it. It's still more common knowledge than 'BRP'.

I tend to informally refer to it as RQ myself. I intentionally refer to it as BRP in general or the individual games when discussing them with people who can actually discriminate RQ2 from Mongoose RQ, Mythras, MW, CoC etc.

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I never even thought of BRP as BRP until the 2000s. Before that, it was just the system for CoC, RQ and  Elric.
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I'm trying to recall, but I don't think we ever used to call it BRP...we'd be more likely to just refer to the actual game like Call of Cthulhu or Superworld. I don't think I called it BRP until I saw the BRP forum web site. As for BGB, I know that's where I picked up the term as I didn't even know there was a standalone book divorced from a setting until within the past decade. Anecdotally I don't think BRP has much brand recognition.

Toadmaster

#356
Basic Role Playing was a 15-20 page stand alone game that was included in Chaosium's boxed sets, so it goes back to at least the very early 1980s (I got my Boxed Runequest no later than 1981).
I have a copy I bought as a stand alone product probably in the late 90s or early 2000s when the idea of Deluxe BRP first started getting brought up The book most refer to as BRB or the Big Gold Book, is technically Deluxe BRP.

In my experience the small BRP booklet for the most part stayed in the box, we played the game we bought (RQ, CoC etc).

Not only did Chaosium bring out one of the first generic games (pre-dates GURPS by at least 4 years), they also brought out one of the first starter or "lite" games (that BRP booklet basically being a cheap intro to RQ). It wasn't marketed that way though until much later, and of course the BRP we have now could never be considered an intro to the other games, being more of a repository of them all.

Bren

We called Basic Role-Playing BRP. But we almost never played BRP. When we played Runequest, Stormbringer, Call of Cthulhu, Hawkmoon, or Ringworld we called what we played by the name of the game we were playing which was more or less synonymous with the setting. We never felt a particular need to use an umbrella name for what we all knew were a family of similar game mechanics.
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Teodrik

#358
In have generally called it BRP since I understood what it was (this was before the yellow book). And not only for Chaosium's games but also in a broader sence. Like 1/2ed Mutant Chronicles, for example, since it is part of that family of games systemwise (minus the Size stat, lengthy chargen tables and useing a d20 instead of a d100, it operates mostly like any other BRP game)

Tulpa Girl

The guy who ran Stormbringer for us back in the 90's just called it 'Chaosium's house system'.