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Why in God's name does DCC require oddball dice, when i already own hundreds of dice?

Started by Razor 007, July 18, 2019, 08:03:26 PM

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GeekyBugle

#105
August 05, 2019, 08:16:07 PM
Quote from: Razor 007;1098443I know, but now I actually have a d3.

But that's impossible! Unless... They marked a d6 with only 1, 2, 3 having two sides of each in such a way that the odds are about even.
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Robyo

#106
August 05, 2019, 08:21:22 PM
Yeah, it's a d6 with Roman numerals 1-3 twice.


I'm lucky, my group has multiple sets of funky dice, so I just borrow the ones I don't have.

Razor 007

#107
August 05, 2019, 08:21:22 PM Last Edit: August 05, 2019, 08:48:38 PM by Razor 007
Quote from: GeekyBugle;1098446But that's impossible! Unless... They marked a d6 with only 1, 2, 3 having two sides of each in such a way that the odds are about even.


I know!!!  Haha!!!

I can't wait to let those funky dice fly!!!
I need you to roll a perception check.....

GeekyBugle

#108
August 05, 2019, 08:24:04 PM
Quote from: Robyo;1098448Yeah, it's a d6 with Roman numerals 1-3 twice.


I'm lucky, my group has multiple sets of funky dice, so I just borrow the ones I don't have.

Why in God's name would anybody buy that dice? Do they sell you the full pack only? can't you get the other funky dice at a store piece by piece? Need to check if my store sells those.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Bren

#109
August 05, 2019, 09:46:28 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle;1098451Why in God's name would anybody buy that dice? Do they sell you the full pack only? can't you get the other funky dice at a store piece by piece? Need to check if my store sells those.
Because (to quote Barbie) "Math is hard." :rolleyes:
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GeekyBugle

#110
August 05, 2019, 09:48:59 PM
Quote from: Bren;1098465Because (to quote Barbie) "Math is hard." :rolleyes:

LOL, I got into the hobby by playing the best Star Wars game ever WEG Star Wars. Have Barbie trying to play with a pool dice system :D
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Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Bren

#111
August 05, 2019, 10:34:51 PM
WEG D6 is great!

I don't need a d3, but I wouldn't mind having a six-sided averaging die with sides 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 5. Sure I can use a regular d6, but the translation table is not intuitive.
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GeekyBugle

#112
August 05, 2019, 10:38:44 PM
Quote from: Bren;1098472WEG D6 is great!

I don't need a d3, but I wouldn't mind having a six-sided averaging die with sides 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 5. Sure I can use a regular d6, but the translation table is not intuitive.

Get a plain die, one of those that come with stickers, remove the stickers and replace them with those numbers. Other option buy a square wood stick of about the size of a die, cut one die from it (making sure the sides are correct) and burn/carve the numbers in it.

edit to add, yes WEG D6 is great, and I hadn't noticed your signature :D
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Bren

#113
August 06, 2019, 04:37:28 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle;1098473Get a plain die, one of those that come with stickers, remove the stickers and replace them with those numbers. Other option buy a square wood stick of about the size of a die, cut one die from it (making sure the sides are correct) and burn/carve the numbers in it.
Stickers would work. But what I really want is dice without stickers. Making my own dice exceeds my tool set and most likely my skill set. On consideration it would have been more accurate to have said I'd like some averaging dice that look like some of my other dice, but not enough to take the time and trouble to make the dice myself. :)
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Razor 007

#114
August 07, 2019, 01:55:22 PM Last Edit: August 07, 2019, 01:59:58 PM by Razor 007
The d7 is very oddly designed.  It only landed on 7, 7 times in 100 rolls.  It should have landed on 7, at least 14 times in 100 rolls; on average.

I love the new, more rounded d4 design; without any sharp points.

The d24 and d30 roll like crazy.  Better not roll them hard; they will leave the table.
I need you to roll a perception check.....

Steven Mitchell

#115
August 07, 2019, 02:23:19 PM
Quote from: Razor 007;1098627The d7 is very oddly designed.  It only landed on 7, 7 times in 100 rolls.  It should have landed on 7, at least 14 times in 100 rolls; on average.

That's not how dice probabilities work.  I forget the exact formula, but to check for bias you need more rolls than that, and then (I think) calculate if you are outside the standard deviation.  7 out of 100 on a d7 is likely well within those parameters.

To put it another way, if you roll a d7 100 times, the chances that each number will come up between 13 and 15 times is relatively tiny.  You are much more likely to have at least one or two outliers.

GeekyBugle

#116
August 07, 2019, 02:45:59 PM
Quote from: Bren;1098524Stickers would work. But what I really want is dice without stickers. Making my own dice exceeds my tool set and most likely my skill set. On consideration it would have been more accurate to have said I'd like some averaging dice that look like some of my other dice, but not enough to take the time and trouble to make the dice myself. :)

Maybe you could convince someone to modify one of these designs?
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Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Bren

#117
August 07, 2019, 05:38:15 PM
Thanks
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Pat

#118
August 07, 2019, 06:30:42 PM
Quote from: Razor 007;1098627The d7 is very oddly designed.  It only landed on 7, 7 times in 100 rolls.  It should have landed on 7, at least 14 times in 100 rolls; on average.
That means nothing, I just generated a few sets of 98 d7s (using a spreadsheet's RNG), and ran a chi-square test on the results. This is one of the results:

(Number of 1s thru 7s, respectively): 18, 13, 15, 17, 14, 15, 6

That's only six 7s, out of 98 rolls. Yet that set easily passes the 90% confidence level test (it's about 63%). If you rolled your die and got that set, we'd have to conclude there's no evidence of bias.

If you really want to test your die, run a chi-square test.

Ratman_tf

#119
August 07, 2019, 06:49:48 PM
Quote from: Bren;1098465Because (to quote Barbie) "Math is hard." :rolleyes:

Or OCD. I like my dice to show the actual result, if at all possible. (before mods)
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