Why GURPS is a joke

Thanatos02 · April 15, 2007, 12:45:19 AM

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I'm very sympathetic to your problem, here.

KrakaJak · April 15, 2007, 02:06:16 AM

Quote from: GunslingerAn experienced gamer will take a tool kit game and modify it to their own needs while the inexperienced gamer will suffer with problems because of their inexperience.

Or maybe a experienced gamer will suffer with problems because a "toolkit" game isn't designed very well enough to make running games EASY. If an experienced gamer has to "work with" a game to make it playable, it's a badly designed game.

Koltar · April 15, 2007, 02:19:38 AM

Why does the above exchange of thoughts make me think of a Jimi Hendrix song that was covered by DEVO?

- Ed C.

Claudius · April 15, 2007, 02:31:54 AM

Quote from: KrakaJakOr maybe a experienced gamer will suffer with problems because a "toolkit" game isn't designed very well enough to make running games EASY. If an experienced gamer has to "work with" a game to make it playable, it's a badly designed game.

Not at all. For some people part of the fun of GURPS (and HERO, and EABA, and BESM...) is that you've got to work with them. What you see as a bug, I see as a feature.

Settembrini · April 15, 2007, 06:01:18 AM

Quote from: Thanatos02I'm very sympathetic to your problem, here.

Me too.
It´d be badwrong, badwrong indeed.

RPGObjects_chuck · April 15, 2007, 06:11:02 AM

Quote from: KrakaJakOr maybe a experienced gamer will suffer with problems because a "toolkit" game isn't designed very well enough to make running games EASY. If an experienced gamer has to "work with" a game to make it playable, it's a badly designed game.

As someone who ran a GURPs campaign for a few years, I never felt I had to work with the system to make it playable.

I just had to choose what I was using and what I wasn't.

I don't think it's an ideal system for every genre though, just like I think the other universal systems Ive ran (hero, d20) have their strengths and weaknesses that lend them to certain genre.

But were I to get in the mood for another time travel game, Id likely still do it GURPs.

Koltar · April 15, 2007, 07:43:50 PM

Its the only game I can think of that has a Kung Fu Fire-breathing Jesus as an illustration in one of its books.

AND I can actually believe that character could be played in a GURPS campaign.

- Ed C.

RockViper · April 15, 2007, 07:56:53 PM

Quote from: KoltarIts the only game I can think of that has a Kung Fu Fire-breathing Jesus as an illustration in one of its books.

AND I can actually believe that character could be played in a GURPS campaign.

- Ed C.

Ok this I have to see, which supplement would it be in?

Koltar · April 15, 2007, 08:07:29 PM

Quote from: RockViperOk this I have to see, which supplement would it be in?

Look in GURPS:POWERS for 4th edition GURPS, page 26. The illustration on the lower left hand of the page. The artwork portrays some kind of superpowered team or group of allies. The figure in the foreground in the martial arts pose that is breathing fire?

On the SJG forums he has become known as the "Kung Fu Fire Breathing Jesus". Some of us thought of putting him on a T-shirt.

At one point some people did Filk song lyrics about him in a Country-Western style. Kung-Fu Jesus just screams: "Must have a Country-Western song".

- Ed C.

RockViper · April 15, 2007, 08:55:13 PM

Thanks for the info.

Lord Svengali · April 16, 2007, 03:49:27 PM

Quote from: KoltarJust had a customer in the store tonight that reminded me why....brunette with red tint in her hair. Gorgeous greenish eyes. she was wearing a skimpy spaghetti-strap tank top...her smile could melt the icebergs... ...she plays GURPS!!!!!!!

I noticed over the years that many of the female gamers that I have known -- including most of the cute ones -- tend to not be as rabidly partisan about the games they play as the guys seem to be. Many of them play AD&D/D&D, of course...it is, after all, the first thing most people think of when they think "role playing game". But nearly all of the ladies that I know who play D&D will also just as readily play other games, from story-based rpgs such as Vampire to crunchy skill-based rpgs like GURPS, and many (especially the cuter ones) actually seem to prefer other games to D&D. Just the ones that I can immediately think of:

D&D is somewhere between 4th and 6th as my wife's favorite game...after Vampire, GURPS, Traveller and sharing the position with Boot Hill and Gamma World. (D&D's exact position on the list will vary from day to day...)
One of the ladies in my GURPS campaign DMs a D&D campaign of her own...but only if neither my GURPS campaign nor another friend's Cyberpunk campaign is currently being run and she can't talk either of us into a game of Warhammer 40k.
My sister, my cousin, and my sister's best friend -- all three former high school and college cheerleaders -- are active in a Dark Conspiracy campaign.
The girls at the dojo where I used to train played in a Vampire the Masquerade campaign that had a single token male player (me) besides the Storyteller.

All of the ladies listed above rate at least a 7 on the cuteness scale.

Lord Svengali · April 16, 2007, 04:16:24 PM

Oh yeah...lest someone mistake me for some sort of D&D anti-partisan (or would that be an anti-D&D partisan?), I would like to point out that over the years the D&D has provided us stats for Donald Duck, the Mad Martian, a hamster, and (with a little bit of conversion work) the Lone Ranger. Gotta love a class/level-based game that will do that!

Sacrificial Lamb · April 16, 2007, 04:49:29 PM

That's why we need d20 GURPS! :haw: Actually, I'm only half-joking. I'd probably buy that. :deflated:

Lord Svengali · April 17, 2007, 03:36:09 AM

Game combinations that should never be attempted: GURPS Rifts d20. Can you imagine how many books you would need?

Koltar · April 17, 2007, 08:23:25 AM

Quote from: Lord SvengaliGame combinations that should never be attempted: GURPS Rifts d20. Can you imagine how many books you would need?

You'd just need ONE book - with some VERY interesting conversion tables in there and 1 of those 3 publishers would have an overly legalistic permission page covering what is allowed and what isn't.

- Ed C.