Quote from: Rhedyn on August 26, 2021, 03:53:16 PM

"How dare you be a bigot towards bigots!" - this is a normal idiot phrase someone struggling to maintain their own sapience spurts out their face-hole. Virtuous tolerance is not harboring ill feeling towards harmless behaviors and being. Tolerating bigots is not virtuous tolerance and the act itself conflicts with other virtues. We could break it down in any ethical system and the accusation is still dumb.

You aren't bigoted towards bigots. You're a bigot yourself as is plainly displayed in your presumptions and associations of x position with y politics. You call your own bigotry a struggle against bigotry but it isn't. That's all that your puerile dogmatic tripe amounts to. It's feeble gas lighting to hide from yourself what a weak noxious psuedo-didactic bigot you are. It's autofellatio. Your "questions" about sapience are likewise just empty narcissistic hogwash unfounded in logic or reality.

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Quote from: Steven Mitchell on August 26, 2021, 01:48:07 PMI have less than zero interest in playing with anyone that would even think about demanding that I accommodate their centaur character in my more typical game.

Thankfully for you, such people would not want to get within spitting distance of you let alone play at your table!

Actual people (as in those capable of sapient thought) don't want to play with "conservatives". You may be confusing demands with a litmus test to filter out bigots.

You haven't offered any sapient arguments, don't sound like actual people at all, and you are displaying signs that you are extremely bigoted but it's good that you are very open about it.

*Proceeds to continue talking to random word generators

Racists or "conservatives" as they prefer to be called as they hide behind euphemism and complaints about wheelchairs (which is a whole other "ist" but one which is much more accepted by larger society so it is something they feel safer attacking) lack basic mental capacity or they would not be so overtly suicidally racist. Many are willing to effectively kill their grandparents if it harms minorities more. Now they are incapable of logically thinking through their beliefs step by step or they would not come to such horrible conclusions. This gross negligence on their parts leads at least myself to question their sapience. Obviously they are capable of suffering, but that is being sentient not sapience. I would much rather have a dog at my table than a "conservative" and they would probably be less disruptive.

"How dare you be a bigot towards bigots!" - this is a normal idiot phrase someone struggling to maintain their own sapience spurts out their face-hole. Virtuous tolerance is not harboring ill feeling towards harmless behaviors and being. Tolerating bigots is not virtuous tolerance and the act itself conflicts with other virtues. We could break it down in any ethical system and the accusation is still dumb.

  I have no doubt you are a laugh a second at parties.  I also think this medium is best suited for people like you to say the things they say.  Just stay keep it online, so that you manage to keep all your choppers where they belong.  I would hate to hear about some conservative type KTFO'ing you.

Quote from: Torque2100 on August 26, 2021, 03:54:15 PM
So you get these discussions where everyone's just talking past each each other.  You say "I don't like the 5e combat wheelchair. I think this item is overpowered."  They hear "I hate disabled people and want to exclude them."  Or they say "I want to play a character who is paralyzed from the waist down" you hear "I demand you give me this super OP magical flying tank at First level or you're a bigot."

There is some of that with the SJW's, but it is much simpler, and this part has been going on forever.  They say, "I want you to run the game so that I can play this character I want to play."  And you say, "I hear you, but I don't want to run that game."  Sometimes it goes around several times between the start and end before we get there, but that's where we get.  Ball is back on the player's side of the court.  So there are a few ways that can go. The player accepts it and plays something else.  The player decides not to play in your game since it isn't a good fit for what he wants.  The player offers to run the kind of game he wants to play.  Or, we get into some of the less mature options where the player is under the delusion that they get to dictate to me what I do and don't run.  Which typically ends when I say, "You want to play that game that bad, you run it.  No?  Didn't think so."  And then I go off with my usual, reasonable players that can tell me quite frankly what they want without playing power games, you know, the mature, friendly, reasonable way to handle things. 

And then some asshole like Rhedyn on the internet tries to make it more than that, to which my answer is that I don't have any trouble finding reasonable players.  Thus I have no incentive to accommodate assholes.

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Quote from: Rhedyn on August 26, 2021, 02:14:15 PM

Quote from: Steven Mitchell on August 26, 2021, 01:48:07 PMI have less than zero interest in playing with anyone that would even think about demanding that I accommodate their centaur character in my more typical game.

Thankfully for you, such people would not want to get within spitting distance of you let alone play at your table!

Actual people (as in those capable of sapient thought) don't want to play with "conservatives". You may be confusing demands with a litmus test to filter out bigots.

You haven't offered any sapient arguments, don't sound like actual people at all, and you are displaying signs that you are extremely bigoted but it's good that you are very open about it.

*Proceeds to continue talking to random word generators

Racists or "conservatives" as they prefer to be called as they hide behind euphemism and complaints about wheelchairs (which is a whole other "ist" but one which is much more accepted by larger society so it is something they feel safer attacking) lack basic mental capacity or they would not be so overtly suicidally racist. Many are willing to effectively kill their grandparents if it harms minorities more. Now they are incapable of logically thinking through their beliefs step by step or they would not come to such horrible conclusions. This gross negligence on their parts leads at least myself to question their sapience. Obviously they are capable of suffering, but that is being sentient not sapience. I would much rather have a dog at my table than a "conservative" and they would probably be less disruptive.

"How dare you be a bigot towards bigots!" - this is a normal idiot phrase someone struggling to maintain their own sapience spurts out their face-hole. Virtuous tolerance is not harboring ill feeling towards harmless behaviors and being. Tolerating bigots is not virtuous tolerance and the act itself conflicts with other virtues. We could break it down in any ethical system and the accusation is still dumb.

  I have no doubt you are a laugh a second at parties.  I also think this medium is best suited for people like you to say the things they say.  Just stay keep it online, so that you manage to keep all your choppers where they belong.  I would hate to hear about some conservative type KTFO'ing you.

Greetings!

*Laughing* Yeah, my friend! I have seen numerous videos where Liberal morons were running their mouth at Conservatives, just like Rhedyn does, and the Liberal pussy gets fucking beat down and often knocked the fuck out with one punch! Fucking hilarious! And then listening to the Liberal pussies sobbing like bitches as blood runs down their faces!

THAT'S what happens when you run your Liberal Cunt mouth in the real world! It's so fucking funny, and so richly deserved! Just like all the ANTIFA bitches getting their asses beat!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: palaeomerus on August 26, 2021, 04:15:56 PM
It's autofellatio.

You say that like it's a *bad* thing.

Quote from: SHARK on August 26, 2021, 04:28:15 PM
*Laughing* Yeah, my friend! I have seen numerous videos where Liberal morons were running their mouth at Conservatives, just like Rhedyn does, and the Liberal pussy gets fucking beat down and often knocked the fuck out with one punch! Fucking hilarious! And then listening to the Liberal pussies sobbing like bitches as blood runs down their faces!

Yes, the correct response to words that you don't agree with is criminal violence. 

Of course, that means setting aside Supreme Court decisions in favor of Free Speech that "mere offensiveness does not qualify as 'fighting words'".  But yeah, hard to think of a time when people abandoning the constitution and taking the law into their own hands ever resulted in anything bad happening. 

Please note that the troll in question wants you to argue with him instead of talking about the topic, so that the topic is not discussed.  Please don't play his game.

Quote from: King Tyranno on August 25, 2021, 08:33:13 AMI'm just getting into OSR related stuff after nearly 15 years playing Pen and Paper RPGs and Wargames. I'm really into a lot of the OSR mentality. Specifically I love that the GM should be the final arbiter of the rules. Great. I've had so much bullshit in the past 5 years from the Critical Role lot whenever they worm their way into my games.

Welcome aboard King Tyranno! Hope you enjoy our wretched hive of scum and villainy!

I love the OSR, but something to note is "Old School Rennaissance" can include (I believe should include) looking into the many other non-TSR RPGs from the early era that also played by the similar concepts you say you enjoy.

In particular, I highly recommend checking out the RPGs from Palladium Books. They haven't meaningfully updated their rules in decades and keep cranking out good stuff.

As for the Critical Role crowd, fuck'em.

It's important that the RPG hobby segregate because there's significant difference in playstyles and expectations and each group doesn't need to interact with the other. Boardgamers and card gamers do this segregation better than RPGers.

Find your tribe, gather members of your tribe and have fun.

The problem is that storygamers and Pundits Swine worked hard to co-opt and take control of RPGs and you can and likely eventually will run into one, ore more of these types. Many of which are flat out insane. The Forge and Cult of Ron have a particular hatred of DMs and have ingraned it into many gamers minds that the DM must be shackled, chained, or outright removed totally so that RPGs can be pure and free of their tyranny!

Whats Role Playing? To a storygamer - Everything on Earth.

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Quote from: palaeomerus on August 26, 2021, 04:15:56 PM
It's autofellatio.

You say that like it's a *bad* thing.

Quote from: SHARK on August 26, 2021, 04:28:15 PM
*Laughing* Yeah, my friend! I have seen numerous videos where Liberal morons were running their mouth at Conservatives, just like Rhedyn does, and the Liberal pussy gets fucking beat down and often knocked the fuck out with one punch! Fucking hilarious! And then listening to the Liberal pussies sobbing like bitches as blood runs down their faces!

Yes, the correct response to words that you don't agree with is criminal violence. 

Of course, that means setting aside Supreme Court decisions in favor of Free Speech that "mere offensiveness does not qualify as 'fighting words'".  But yeah, hard to think of a time when people abandoning the constitution and taking the law into their own hands ever resulted in anything bad happening.

   I do not see many people getting KTFO'd for offensiveness.  They usually cross a line making some sort of threat or other, and where I live, if accompanied by a bit of animated posturing, the police are going to tell you too damn bad when you attempt to report your session of tooth loss to them.   So sure, chant what you like, say what you want, but...there are such things as fighting words, and many states cover it in their laws.  So I guess it depends on where you live on how much you can reel out checks from your mouth before someone decides to cash one.   Libelous I am pretty sure counts as fighting words, so call people racist if you like.  Just make sure to check your zip code first.

Quote from: oggsmash on August 26, 2021, 05:56:43 PMI do not see many people getting KTFO'd for offensiveness.  They usually cross a line making some sort of threat or other, and where I live, if accompanied by a bit of animated posturing, the police are going to tell you too damn bad when you attempt to report your session of tooth loss to them.   So sure, chant what you like, say what you want, but...there are such things as fighting words, and many states cover it in their laws.  So I guess it depends on where you live on how much you can reel out checks from your mouth before someone decides to cash one.   Libelous I am pretty sure counts as fighting words, so call people racist if you like.  Just make sure to check your zip code first.

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Y'all stupid.

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Quote from: oggsmash on August 26, 2021, 05:56:43 PMI do not see many people getting KTFO'd for offensiveness.  They usually cross a line making some sort of threat or other, and where I live, if accompanied by a bit of animated posturing, the police are going to tell you too damn bad when you attempt to report your session of tooth loss to them.   So sure, chant what you like, say what you want, but...there are such things as fighting words, and many states cover it in their laws.  So I guess it depends on where you live on how much you can reel out checks from your mouth before someone decides to cash one.   Libelous I am pretty sure counts as fighting words, so call people racist if you like.  Just make sure to check your zip code first.

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Y'all stupid.

  Like I said, this is the perfect medium for you and your kind.

Quote from: Omega on August 26, 2021, 05:42:59 PMThe problem is that storygamers and Pundits Swine worked hard to co-opt and take control of RPGs and you can and likely eventually will run into one, ore more of these types.

And that is why rooms have doors.

And windows.

Quote from: oggsmash on August 26, 2021, 04:18:14 PM
  I have no doubt you are a laugh a second at parties.  I also think this medium is best suited for people like you to say the things they say.  Just stay keep it online, so that you manage to keep all your choppers where they belong.  I would hate to hear about some conservative type KTFO'ing you.

Quote from: SHARK on August 26, 2021, 04:28:15 PM
*Laughing* Yeah, my friend! I have seen numerous videos where Liberal morons were running their mouth at Conservatives, just like Rhedyn does, and the Liberal pussy gets fucking beat down and often knocked the fuck out with one punch! Fucking hilarious! And then listening to the Liberal pussies sobbing like bitches as blood runs down their faces!

THAT'S what happens when you run your Liberal Cunt mouth in the real world!

Quote from: oggsmash on August 26, 2021, 05:56:43 PMI do not see many people getting KTFO'd for offensiveness.  They usually cross a line making some sort of threat or other, and where I live, if accompanied by a bit of animated posturing, the police are going to tell you too damn bad when you attempt to report your session of tooth loss to them.   So sure, chant what you like, say what you want, but...there are such things as fighting words, and many states cover it in their laws.  So I guess it depends on where you live on how much you can reel out checks from your mouth before someone decides to cash one.   Libelous I am pretty sure counts as fighting words, so call people racist if you like.  Just make sure to check your zip code first.

SHARK and oggsmash -- it seems particularly ironic to talk about the cowardliness of online talk when you're talking anonymously online. I suspect that offline, you don't talk the way you talk here -- and you'd be afraid to have how you speak revealed.

I stand by my beliefs both online and offline. I am open about my real name and location online, and in the real world, I'll say exactly the same that I say here. I've gotten harassed a few times both online and offline, but never punched or knocked out.

Quote from: Omega on August 26, 2021, 05:42:59 PM
Whats Role Playing? To a storygamer - Everything on Earth.

Everything except those powergaming min/maxing bigots.

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Quote from: oggsmash on August 26, 2021, 04:18:14 PM
  I have no doubt you are a laugh a second at parties.  I also think this medium is best suited for people like you to say the things they say.  Just stay keep it online, so that you manage to keep all your choppers where they belong.  I would hate to hear about some conservative type KTFO'ing you.

Quote from: SHARK on August 26, 2021, 04:28:15 PM
*Laughing* Yeah, my friend! I have seen numerous videos where Liberal morons were running their mouth at Conservatives, just like Rhedyn does, and the Liberal pussy gets fucking beat down and often knocked the fuck out with one punch! Fucking hilarious! And then listening to the Liberal pussies sobbing like bitches as blood runs down their faces!

THAT'S what happens when you run your Liberal Cunt mouth in the real world!

Quote from: oggsmash on August 26, 2021, 05:56:43 PMI do not see many people getting KTFO'd for offensiveness.  They usually cross a line making some sort of threat or other, and where I live, if accompanied by a bit of animated posturing, the police are going to tell you too damn bad when you attempt to report your session of tooth loss to them.   So sure, chant what you like, say what you want, but...there are such things as fighting words, and many states cover it in their laws.  So I guess it depends on where you live on how much you can reel out checks from your mouth before someone decides to cash one.   Libelous I am pretty sure counts as fighting words, so call people racist if you like.  Just make sure to check your zip code first.

SHARK and oggsmash -- it seems particularly ironic to talk about the cowardliness of online talk when you're talking anonymously online. I suspect that offline, you don't talk the way you talk here -- and you'd be afraid to have how you speak revealed.

I stand by my beliefs both online and offline. I am open about my real name and location online, and in the real world, I'll say exactly the same that I say here. I've gotten harassed a few times both online and offline, but never punched or knocked out.

  I can get cancelled for tossing out anything even remotely perceived the wrong way.  I have never seen you say or do a single thing that would warrant an ass whipping.  If you would like my name and address, I will gladly give it to you in a message.  Stop by,  train a bit, enjoy yourself.  But one thing you will see, is I have said not one thing here that I do not say in person, on some subjects, I will be a good deal stronger.  Would you like my name and where should you ever be in my neck of the woods we can discuss such matters in person?