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In Nu-D&D You Will Eat the Diversity Foods

Started by RPGPundit, September 04, 2024, 10:28:23 AM

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Ratman_tf

#270
September 18, 2024, 10:21:29 PM
Quote from: jhkim on September 18, 2024, 02:14:31 PM
Quote from: Nobleshield on September 18, 2024, 10:15:15 AMThe only reason I can see for pursuing the brand is because it's "the brand".  There are way too many people who will know/want to play "Dungeons & Dragons" but if you mention an OSR game they look at you like you're speaking Greek; they have no idea what they are, why they should be playing "an old game" (instead of the most recent edition), etc.

I know locally I'd probably have a MUCH easier time finding players if I wanted to run modern D&D than to say I'm running OSE/BX/C&C/insert retroclone here, because people don't know what those things ARE and when you mention it it feels more like "let's play an obsolete version of the game that you have to find online, not the current version that's fully stocked at the game store you can just grab off the shelf"

There are many people who play a brand simply because of that network, even if they know about other games and might even prefer some other games.

Very true. I had to drop Warmachine when my local group faded away and I wasn't in the mood to go find a new one since I was getting into X-Wing Miniatures at about the same time.

Playing a popular game smooths out a lot of issues, like finding players/GMs, getting ahold of the books and accessories, etc, etc.
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S'mon

#271
September 19, 2024, 03:31:44 AM
There are games with tiny budgets that have far better art direction than 5e DnD. It's incredible how they will just put out anything. In the core book.

Omega

#272
September 19, 2024, 08:53:55 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on September 18, 2024, 08:05:59 PM
Quote from: Nobleshield on September 18, 2024, 07:16:18 PM
Quote from: M2A0 on September 18, 2024, 07:04:46 PM
Quote from: Nobleshield on September 18, 2024, 09:47:52 AM
Quote from: M2A0 on September 18, 2024, 08:28:46 AMWhat page in the Nu-PHB is that on? I went to the Sorcerer & Dragonborn section, don't see anything resembling that pic.

148 it looks like, right before the JonBenet Ramsey Loli-looking wild magic halfling (gnome?) sorcerer.

Ok, my bad. I was looking for a Dragonborn Sorcerer, not the Aasimir Draconic Sorcerer.

That really does look like a FtM situation going on there. I fucking hate identity politics so much, thankfully the pendulum is swinging.
the worst part is according to the artist that was something she added in her own. Not part of the brief.

But WotC's editors saw it and approved it...

Ergo WotC can't wash their hands from it.

wotc art editors for the last 20 years have been asleep at the job more than they ever actually do anything. They glance at the piece. "Is it vaugly humanoid? Yes? Pass!"

And even TSR had problems with artists pulling stunts. I've talked at length about one 2e artist who made extensive use of movie stills as his models. Another was using comic books as reffs. Even Pallasium had that problem once.

GeekyBugle

#273
September 19, 2024, 10:08:37 PM
Quote from: Omega on September 19, 2024, 08:53:55 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on September 18, 2024, 08:05:59 PM
Quote from: Nobleshield on September 18, 2024, 07:16:18 PM
Quote from: M2A0 on September 18, 2024, 07:04:46 PM
Quote from: Nobleshield on September 18, 2024, 09:47:52 AM
Quote from: M2A0 on September 18, 2024, 08:28:46 AMWhat page in the Nu-PHB is that on? I went to the Sorcerer & Dragonborn section, don't see anything resembling that pic.

148 it looks like, right before the JonBenet Ramsey Loli-looking wild magic halfling (gnome?) sorcerer.

Ok, my bad. I was looking for a Dragonborn Sorcerer, not the Aasimir Draconic Sorcerer.

That really does look like a FtM situation going on there. I fucking hate identity politics so much, thankfully the pendulum is swinging.
the worst part is according to the artist that was something she added in her own. Not part of the brief.

But WotC's editors saw it and approved it...

Ergo WotC can't wash their hands from it.

wotc art editors for the last 20 years have been asleep at the job more than they ever actually do anything. They glance at the piece. "Is it vaugly humanoid? Yes? Pass!"

And even TSR had problems with artists pulling stunts. I've talked at length about one 2e artist who made extensive use of movie stills as his models. Another was using comic books as reffs. Even Pallasium had that problem once.

The fact that they suck at their jobs isn't an excuse, neither is it that others do too.

And that's even granting you they are asleep at the wheel, I somehow doubt you could pass a "heteronormative" drawing that appeals to the male gaze.
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