Quote from: mAcular Chaotic;1110678I see it a lot online. If you check around the dnd reddits you see people discuss various ones all the time. I don't know how much it is compared to previous versions though and there is a strong undercurrent of RAW-is-right. But they seem to be different subgroups.

Cool, I will check that out. I'm on the fence if I want to run Curse of Strahd, mostly due to everyone wanting to play 5E and I'm not sold on it. Maybe some house rules would help.

Quote from: Aglondir;1110687Cool, I will check that out. I'm on the fence if I want to run Curse of Strahd, mostly due to everyone wanting to play 5E and I'm not sold on it. Maybe some house rules would help.

One way to look at it is it's not changing the game itself overall -- you're not saying it's better or worse, but certain rules are better suited to certain kinds of games.

For instance, in my Diablo game, I wanted to make it feel scarier, so you die instantly at 0 hit points. At the same time, in the actual Diablo game, you die a lot but also respawn. So I implemented a "respawn" mechanic that is kind of like Dark Souls where you become tainted and lose humanity, becoming more hollow each time. It mimics the arc of Diablo heroes that become more distorted by the evil they fight.

It's good to mention these things up front when you're doing it though unless you have a long standing group that's okay with you figuring it out as you go.

Quote from: jeff37923;1110686I consider both he and you part of the 34%.  

We are a third of a Legion.  

This probably doesn't need saying, but millennial here checking in. I started with 5e but haven't played it for a few years now. I'm not going back.

Quote from: Giant Octopodes;1110496No, "Most People", some might even say the MAJORITY, REALLY did not understand you.  Note the replies you got.

Yeah, AFAICS 'majority' means 'more than half'.

I think most new players need to become comfortable and get a good campaign under their belts before they are ready to branch out.

Some players never want to branch out, and that's OK too.

For some gamers, D&D is their version of a Milton Bradley game, where the whole point is to have something to do while you hang out with your friends, and you don't think too hard about creating drama or system mechanics.

Quote from: GnomeWorks;1110457I don't know, why are boomers assholes who want to bitch about every other generation, when theirs is complete trash?

Do you see what I did there?

Yep. Apologies to all actual millennials who took offence to my generalisation about you!

And thanks to all for 11 pages of responses! Very interesting.

I'm still a bit baffled by all the lamentations here. If you want millennials to branch out and try new games, then maybe you need to branch out and try new avenues for recruiting. Trying to get people to do unconventional things through conventional channels is a losing proposition.

I'll just reiterate that I have no problem getting millennials to play my old school homebrew, and quite frequently it's their first foray into TTRPGing of any kind. Several who have subsequently tried 5e were unimpressed, preferring our game.

It's really not about generations. Mainstream venues attract mainstream thinkers, it's that simple.

I've run a small chain of Comic and Game stores in KY for the last 20 years. Most roleplayers are, in fact, D&D players. They either coming looking for the edition they used to play or coming looking for the new edition. At my stores they outnumber roleplayers who even know about other RPGs around 30 to 1. Most of them barely know when a new supplement is released and generally will get a Player's Handbook and maybe 1 other book. They don't know about this site, probably only belong to a FB group tied to their group, and they are pretty darn happy playing D&D.

We are the outliers. My group could spend years just playing 5E. I don't want to, but they are the best group I've ever had so I go along with them.

Maybe the answer to the Millennial question is to SKIP trying to recruit the Millennials.

There are plenty of GenZ (college kids) and GenX (old farts) who can be recruited, perhaps with less effort.

Though I have a question about the "5e Only" players. Will they only play WotC D&D 5e or will they play the various "Based on 5e" RPGs that have been published? I see plenty of those on Kickstarter getting funded with 500+ sales, so somebody is buying them.

I think the importance of Dragon Magazine to the greater industry back in the day is the big thing.  You could advertise to D&D's fans in D&D's magazine.

I'm tired of everyone hating on the Boomers.

Boomers are better than Millennials.

There, I said it.

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1110941I'm tired of everyone hating on the Boomers.

Boomers are better than Millennials.

There, I said it.

get back to us when the national debt isnt crippling

Quote from: mAcular Chaotic;1110943get back to us when the national debt isnt crippling

Not to dip too far into politics, but I am a millenial, when I hit 18 the national debt was a bit under 40% of the GNP, it's now over 100%.  As the GNP has grown, it's not just that it's more than doubled in terms of percentage of the GNP in the last 15 years (the last 10, really) and instead, it's that it's gone from 4 trillion when millenials began voting to over 22 trillion now.  So I am not sure millenials haven't played their part, just saying.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1110937Though I have a question about the "5e Only" players. Will they only play WotC D&D 5e or will they play the various "Based on 5e" RPGs that have been published? I see plenty of those on Kickstarter getting funded with 500+ sales, so somebody is buying them.

I know one dude tried to get players for a 5e game set in Greek mythology. No one was interested.