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Who you reccomend a D&D 5e/pathfinder 2e player OSR games?

Started by antonioGUAK, January 12, 2025, 04:40:46 AM

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ForgottenF

Quote from: RNGm on January 12, 2025, 08:16:46 PM
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Quote from: MerrillWeathermay on January 12, 2025, 07:07:38 PM2. Forbidden Lands from Free League. I have not played this, but I love their other games. Excellent mechanics, and a cool setting.

Is FBL considered OSR adjacent by some?   I never got that feel from playing it though I am a vocal fan of the system so that's not a dig on it by any means.   I just never thought of it even remotely being anything like OSR but I suppose people can have vastly different definitions of the term.

I can't speak for the rest, but Dragonbane definitely isn't OSR.

Agreed.  It's its own thing as a fantasy RPG coming from different routes and I wouldn't consider mirth to be a core tenet of OSR personally, lol.

It's a re-do/conversion of an old game from the 80s, isn't it? That'd qualify it for OSR-adjacency in the same way as Dragon Warriors and Against the Darkmaster, at least.
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bat

OSR just means an older style of play. it is not TSR/D&D exclusive and never was meant to be, yet it is now somehow 'written in stone'. RuneQuest, Tunnels and Trolls, Traveller, older editions are also OSR because way back the idea was to get people to actually play in an older style and not jus talk about it. WEG Star Wars? OSR. How do I Know? I made the TARGA Yahoo Group and I made the flyers for people to print out and post for their games.
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jhkim

Quote from: bat on January 14, 2025, 12:45:10 PMOSR just means an older style of play. it is not TSR/D&D exclusive and never was meant to be, yet it is now somehow 'written in stone'. RuneQuest, Tunnels and Trolls, Traveller, older editions are also OSR because way back the idea was to get people to actually play in an older style and not jus talk about it. WEG Star Wars? OSR. How do I Know? I made the TARGA Yahoo Group and I made the flyers for people to print out and post for their games.

By 1980, there was already a huge range of different game styles, and WEG didn't come out until 1987.

For example, I think it doesn't make sense to call a rotating-GM Ars Magica game with Whimsy Cards as OSR, even though it was released in 1987.

ForgottenF

Quote from: jhkim on January 15, 2025, 04:05:43 PM
Quote from: bat on January 14, 2025, 12:45:10 PMOSR just means an older style of play. it is not TSR/D&D exclusive and never was meant to be, yet it is now somehow 'written in stone'. RuneQuest, Tunnels and Trolls, Traveller, older editions are also OSR because way back the idea was to get people to actually play in an older style and not jus talk about it. WEG Star Wars? OSR. How do I Know? I made the TARGA Yahoo Group and I made the flyers for people to print out and post for their games.

By 1980, there was already a huge range of different game styles, and WEG didn't come out until 1987.

For example, I think it doesn't make sense to call a rotating-GM Ars Magica game with Whimsy Cards as OSR, even though it was released in 1987.

Here's the schema I'd suggest to clear up the inevitable confusion on this point. Three categories (call them what you like):

1. Games which are remakes, house-rules, or otherwise mild modifications of TSR-era D&D. (Labyrinth Lord, OSE, Hyperborea, OSRIC, etc). I'd probably also lump re-flavorings of TSR-era D&D like Helveczia or Lion and Dragon in here, but that's debatable.
2. Games that are obviously taking inspiration from old school D&D, but are making significant enough changes to lose immediate compatibility (Index Card RPG, Cairn, The Black Hack, Heroes Journey, etc)
3. Games that are taking the OSR approach to old games that aren't D&D (Against the Darkmaster, Dragon Warriors, Warlock!, Cepheus System, etc.)
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