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Title: Who Wants To Make A PDF?
Post by: RPGPundit on August 29, 2006, 12:59:06 PM
Over at the Runequest SRD thread, I noticed that there were quite a lot of you guys who were skilled at the making of PDFs.

So here's my question: is there any valiant Proxy out there who would be interested in making the PDF for the english-language version of "Forward... To Adventure!"?

For those who don't know, FtA! is my very own RPG, one that came to me in a dream and that I designed for the latin american market.  The spanish language version is still in the translation process, but since I've got the rules basically written up in English, it could be good if someone were to want to set them up as a PDF.

What you'd need to be able to do:

1. Make a decent, professional-quality PDF, with illustrations, etc.
2. Figure out a place to sell said PDF for a reasonable fee.
3. Profit! We split the proceeds.

So, who out there in RPGsiteland is bold enough to publish the Pundit's game?

RPGPundit
Title: Who Wants To Make A PDF?
Post by: Mcrow on August 29, 2006, 01:04:19 PM
Quote from: RPGPunditOver at the Runequest SRD thread, I noticed that there were quite a lot of you guys who were skilled at the making of PDFs.

So here's my question: is there any valiant Proxy out there who would be interested in making the PDF for the english-language version of "Forward... To Adventure!"?

For those who don't know, FtA! is my very own RPG, one that came to me in a dream and that I designed for the latin american market.  The spanish language version is still in the translation process, but since I've got the rules basically written up in English, it could be good if someone were to want to set them up as a PDF.

What you'd need to be able to do:

1. Make a decent, professional-quality PDF, with illustrations, etc.
2. Figure out a place to sell said PDF for a reasonable fee.
3. Profit! We split the proceeds.

So, who out there in RPGsiteland is bold enough to publish the Pundit's game?

RPGPundit

hhhmmmmm!:ponder:

Sounds interesting. What is the theme? Or is it a stand alone rule set?

the theme is the biggest thing as far as the cost of art goes. If it is historical or fantasy you can keep art on the cheap and use clipart. It will still look nice. If it is sci-fi you could end up racking up high art costs.
Title: Who Wants To Make A PDF?
Post by: RPGPundit on August 29, 2006, 05:18:10 PM
Forward... to Adventure! is a very classic style of basic fantasy game. Its designed to be a game you can pick up and play very quickly, make characters in minutes, get into the dungeon or wilderness and go!
Its traditional fantasy, basically, and it has no built-in world/setting, only a kind of flavour to it (which I'd describe as conan/Elricesque; it would work really well in settings like the Wilderlands, the Fighting Fantasy world (Titan), or Lankhmar).

RPGPundit
Title: Who Wants To Make A PDF?
Post by: Lawbag on August 29, 2006, 05:35:05 PM
hasn't Settembrini already sorted out the cover picture?
Title: Who Wants To Make A PDF?
Post by: Mcrow on August 29, 2006, 05:42:20 PM
Quote from: RPGPunditForward... to Adventure! is a very classic style of basic fantasy game. Its designed to be a game you can pick up and play very quickly, make characters in minutes, get into the dungeon or wilderness and go!
Its traditional fantasy, basically, and it has no built-in world/setting, only a kind of flavour to it (which I'd describe as conan/Elricesque; it would work really well in settings like the Wilderlands, the Fighting Fantasy world (Titan), or Lankhmar).

RPGPundit

Sounds cool. How many pages is it in the current format?

It seems that this game would relatively short, not to flashy looking, and be alight read. If so this seems to be the type of thing most anyone with a PDF editor could slap together for about $8 (including art). Get a membership to Clipart.com and get all the art you need lay it out and sell it through RPGnow.

EDIT: I should also mention that there are many games like this for free, so sales on such a product would likely be low. Of course I have not seen it yet, so that opinion could change.
Title: Who Wants To Make A PDF?
Post by: RPGPundit on August 29, 2006, 10:18:04 PM
Quote from: Lawbaghasn't Settembrini already sorted out the cover picture?

Well no; Settembrini made up a faux-cover for the game, but as far as I know its a copyrighted image that we almost certainly wouldn't be able to use if we made a real PDF.

RPGPundit
Title: Who Wants To Make A PDF?
Post by: RPGPundit on August 29, 2006, 10:24:36 PM
Quote from: McrowSounds cool. How many pages is it in the current format?

It seems that this game would relatively short, not to flashy looking, and be alight read. If so this seems to be the type of thing most anyone with a PDF editor could slap together for about $8 (including art). Get a membership to Clipart.com and get all the art you need lay it out and sell it through RPGnow.

EDIT: I should also mention that there are many games like this for free, so sales on such a product would likely be low. Of course I have not seen it yet, so that opinion could change.

The total pagecount is 105 pages, as a Word document.  It is, in its current format, a complete RPG.

I wouldn't expect the game to be priced at a very high margin, but given that a lot of people took interest in the process by which the game was designed, I could imagine that a PDF would have some decent sales.

Anyways, the reason I'm looking for a partner to do this with is that I'm just too lazy and too technically inept to put together a PDF myself, much less to sell one. So this is a good opportunity for someone who wants to make a bit (probably a very little bit) of cash and promote the RPGPundit's game.

RPGPundit
Title: Who Wants To Make A PDF?
Post by: Vellorian on August 29, 2006, 11:25:06 PM
I know people who could do it for you, if you're really serious about this.
Title: Who Wants To Make A PDF?
Post by: RPGPundit on August 30, 2006, 02:33:01 AM
Quote from: VellorianI know people who could do it for you, if you're really serious about this.

And um.. which people would those be? The way you phrased it you made it sound a bit like it would be the Vescotti brothers, their uncle Vito and the Capo.

RPGPundit
Title: Who Wants To Make A PDF?
Post by: Vellorian on August 30, 2006, 09:27:42 AM
Quote from: RPGPunditAnd um.. which people would those be? The way you phrased it you made it sound a bit like it would be the Vescotti brothers, their uncle Vito and the Capo.

You've heard of them, then?  :)

No, seriously, I know some people who are working on a startup company to sell PDF products.  They're polishing off a few of their own right now, but they probably won't be ready "for primetime" until next year or so.  They might jump at the chance to "get on the map" with something sooner.

I'll be seeing them this weekend and mention the idea and point them to you, if you'd like.  :)
Title: Who Wants To Make A PDF?
Post by: RPGPundit on August 30, 2006, 01:57:27 PM
Quote from: VellorianYou've heard of them, then?  :)

No, seriously, I know some people who are working on a startup company to sell PDF products.  They're polishing off a few of their own right now, but they probably won't be ready "for primetime" until next year or so.  They might jump at the chance to "get on the map" with something sooner.

I'll be seeing them this weekend and mention the idea and point them to you, if you'd like.  :)

Sure, mention it to them... but what the fuck makes one need to wait a year before they're ready to release PDFs? Or is it that they're actually still working on the game itself?

In any case, its going to pretty well be first come, first serve, in the sense that the first guy who I feel can decently draw up the PDF and sell it is the one I'll be giving this to.

So hurry on up, guys!

RPGPundit
Title: Who Wants To Make A PDF?
Post by: Vellorian on August 30, 2006, 02:06:41 PM
Quote from: RPGPunditSure, mention it to them... but what the fuck makes one need to wait a year before they're ready to release PDFs? Or is it that they're actually still working on the game itself?

That's my understanding, yes.  I believe they said something about releasing several games simultaneously.  I know they are still developing because this coming weekend is supposed to be a final playtest on one setting and an initial playtest in another.

QuoteIn any case, its going to pretty well be first come, first serve, in the sense that the first guy who I feel can decently draw up the PDF and sell it is the one I'll be giving this to.

Sounds fair to me.  Do you have anything I could show them on the setting this weekend?  It would probably be easier to say, "This is something you might want to look at..." than "Hey, I talked to this dude on an internet forum..." ;)

Email: vellorian@gmail.com
Title: Who Wants To Make A PDF?
Post by: RPGPundit on August 30, 2006, 05:09:23 PM
Quote from: VellorianSounds fair to me.  Do you have anything I could show them on the setting this weekend?  It would probably be easier to say, "This is something you might want to look at..." than "Hey, I talked to this dude on an internet forum..." ;)

Email: vellorian@gmail.com

Maybe explain to them who I am? The fact that I regularly have over a thousand readers a day on my blog?
Explain the basic premise of the game (a quick-pick-up old-school fantasy game that came to me in a dream)?

I got nothin... :shrug:

RGPPundit
Title: Who Wants To Make A PDF?
Post by: RPGPundit on September 02, 2006, 12:28:14 PM
Doing a bump of this since basically it got nowhere so far.. :idunno: