Quote from: Opaopajr;861246Baby Jesus gives a fuck. Why don't you think of him?

He still owes me his lunch money.

I don't care about the OSR. New school/old school/subhuman school - if they come out with a good game, great. If not, no biggie. The OSR is all (in 32 flavors) looking too old school D&D.

I voted Mango Chutney.

Because in the end all I really care about is having fun. I'm fighting the good fight against censorship, outrage assassinations, and shenanigans. However, all the debate about what's cool or not does nothing for me anymore (I used to be a HUGE theory nerd, back when I was tricked into giving a shit by THE SWINE).

I like some OSR stuff BUT the general level HP pool crap just irks me sideways. So I'm done with D&D (and friends). HOWEVER, there's just too much creative lovely amazing works out there to drop the works for the game. I can adapt, steal and modify to fit other games.

I'm both a ME! ME! and Not for ME! stuck together in a gooey mashed state of delicious controversy.

Hence, the Mango Chutney.

Quote from: Necrozius;861277I said "reasons" because I treasure all of the inspirational blogs, the "DIY" philosophy and the very fun, imaginative and evocative products the movement has spawned.

On the other had, I loathe the politics and the geek faction wars going on.

This. (Except I voted Me! Me! because I qualified that as "a fuck".)

The part of OSR that is about making new modules and such. Thats fine and good.

The part of OSR that seems to be using it as a front for game theft and what feels like an endless parade of "retro-clones" which are at times blatant theft. No. Thats not fine. Sure there are some innovative creations out there. But they are lost in the morass of colones and sometime cloned clones.

I think it's great, it produces tons of great material, both my 5e D&D and Classic D&D campaigns are primarily OSR based campaigns. It makes my life better, I definitely give a fuck, so Me! Me!

I voted Mango Chutney because I have no idea what it is or what you mean by it.

I voted "Not ME!" simply because I don't care enough to differentiate.  It's all D&D at the end of the day, which I may or may not steal ideas from at some point.

I think a lot of the time, OSR gets confused with DIY. Sure, I play/run LotFP, but I have near zero interest in old (or new, for that matter) editions of D&D. And I mod the shit out of LotFP to make it work the way I want. I have never played Basic DnD or Labyrinth Lord, and after reading the Rules Cyclopedia and LL, it'll probably stay that way.

I will, however, take what I like or want to emulate and use it in my own game, which uses the skeleton of an older edition, but with modern bionic parts bolted on that I either create myself or steal from others.

Which seems to be pretty much what most of the self-proclaimed "OSR" peeps do, judging from blogs and forum posts. Probably why it seems to be so hard to truly define.

All that said, I did just play in a one-shot of AD&D 2nd ed last weekend and it was actually fun. I don't remember it being fun back in the 90s.

I don't really care about them, but I have no reason to wish them anything other than well.  Some of the more extreme fringes of Talmudic scholarship within the movement rather make my asshole tired, but other than that if they're having fun, good on 'em.

Quote from: Doughdee222;861327I voted Mango Chutney because I have no idea what it is or what you mean by it.

Hit up a good Indian restaurant and ask for it. It's pure heaven on lamb. Pure. Heaven.

Don't give a fuck about OSR, because it's just edition warring by another name.

AD&D 1st edition is good enough for me. Don't care what came after, except for Dark Albion.

Quote from: Xavier Onassiss;861392Don't give a fuck about OSR, because it's just edition warring by another name.

Actually, it's a little more than that.  It's edition war stuff that people are making money on, which gives them an air of 'reputability', so you have a bunch of people feeling justified with claiming their way is the 'true way to play' because they're selling their homebrew.

I greatly enjoy the OSR. Not all of it, but who enjoys 100% of any meme / organization / movement / whatever?

I love horror movies, I love RPGs, I love heavy metal, but do I love 100% of all horror movies, all RPGs or all metal? No, nor would that make sense. Of course, some stuff appeals to me and other stuff doesn't.

For me, the OSR has been mostly good stuff. I shrug off the lame because the good stuff often has been great stuff. Mazes & Minotaurs baby!

If you're talking about the products that are kinda sorta labeled OSR, lot of cool stuff.

If you're talking about +1s, blogospheres, circles, teh intarwebz and who last had a beer at Tenkar's Tavern, my lack of fucks is Absolute Infinite Zero, creating its own negative universe, or something.

So, mango chutney.