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Which can you play without (a d20 or role-play)?

Started by Shawn Driscoll, April 22, 2016, 02:42:59 AM

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Rincewind1

Quote from: Orphan81;894585If you were forced to spend an evening with Shawn Driscoll, would you rather get Shit faced drunk, or meet his mom?

I'd do both, if you know what I mean.
Furthermore, I consider that  This is Why We Don\'t Like You thread should be closed

Sable Wyvern

Quote from: TristramEvans;894260You know how they say there's no such thing as a stupid question?

They lied.

The correct rule is: There are no stupid questions, only stupid people.

Krimson

Of course it depends on the type of game. If you have a highly lethal campaign where you are making a new character every session or so then why even bother to RP?
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Simlasa

Quote from: Krimson;897964If you have a highly lethal campaign where you are making a new character every session or so then why even bother to RP?
Actually, I'll roleplay with wilder abandon... more extreme personalities and accents that I might not be interested in maintaining over longer lived PCs.

Krimson

Quote from: Simlasa;897966Actually, I'll roleplay with wilder abandon... more extreme personalities and accents that I might not be interested in maintaining over longer lived PCs.

That's not really roleplaying though. That sounds more like using tropes. Sure, I can differentiate Bob the Fighter II, II and IV by adopting extreme personalities and basically parody RPing, but in combat heavy games I've noticed that people stop referring to characters as characters and start referring to them as builds. It makes sense, because in a way you are no longer RPing, you are just playing a combat simulation. If I play Advanced Squad Leader I'm not going to start talking in funny voices for my little counters. :D
"Anyways, I for one never felt like it had a worse \'yiff factor\' than any other system." -- RPGPundit

Simlasa

Quote from: Krimson;898114That's not really roleplaying though. That sounds more like using tropes.
What's wrong with using tropes? How is that not roleplaying?
QuoteSure, I can differentiate Bob the Fighter II, II and IV by adopting extreme personalities and basically parody RPing, but in combat heavy games I've noticed that people stop referring to characters as characters and start referring to them as builds.
I don't do 'builds'.
QuoteIf I play Advanced Squad Leader I'm not going to start talking in funny voices for my little counters. :D
Oh, I totally would... and do, when I play wargames.

Krimson

Quote from: Simlasa;898122What's wrong with using tropes? How is that not roleplaying?

I use tropes too, but they end up being parody a lot of the time. RPing a cookie cutout is fun, but I wouldn't hold out for any depth. Most tropers I find can only handle RP that is light and fluffy, which is fine if that's your taste in RP. All too many times though I've seen such scenarios degrading into jokes and the game comes to a halt. If you had bypassed RP altogether, you could still play the game and joke around and get scenarios done without the added weight of characterization which may or may not be taken seriously, probably the latter.
"Anyways, I for one never felt like it had a worse \'yiff factor\' than any other system." -- RPGPundit

Simlasa

Quote from: Krimson;898124I use tropes too, but they end up being parody a lot of the time.
Why do you assume I would do the same? Tropes can just be quick hooks to hang more complex portrayals on.
QuoteMost tropers I find can only handle RP that is light and fluffy, which is fine if that's your taste in RP.
Not my taste at all... and 'tropers'? Is that a thing?
Really, I think you're assuming a LOT.
I've generally got no interest in playing comedy characters. What I'm suggesting is that, given shorter PC lifespans, I find myself more willing to take on extreme characters who I don't personally like all that much... such as playing cowards, cretins, zealots... because I will only have to live in their skin for a limited time.

RPGPundit

Quote from: Simlasa;897966Actually, I'll roleplay with wilder abandon... more extreme personalities and accents that I might not be interested in maintaining over longer lived PCs.

This is the right answer. You work harder to play the character, trying to get more out of them while they're around. And of course, when you  have a character that ends up surviving and doing well, it makes them all the more sophisticated as they evolve.
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Quote from: RPGPundit;898869This is the right answer. You work harder to play the character, trying to get more out of them while they're around. And of course, when you have a character that ends up surviving and doing well, it makes them all the more sophisticated as they evolve.
That's been my experience. Other role-players at the table will miss such characters more when they do leave a campaign.