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Which of D&D's surviving "founding fathers" had the most influence on the game?

Started by RPGPundit, April 09, 2018, 02:01:39 AM

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RPGPundit

April 09, 2018, 02:01:39 AM
We all know how important Gygax and Arneson were. What about those who are still with us, though?

Of the people involved in the creation and early years of D&D, who is still alive who you think was probably the most important to the game?
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Nerzenjäger

#1
April 09, 2018, 02:04:05 AM
Dave Wesely, obviously.
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Fiasco

#2
April 09, 2018, 02:30:45 AM
It's such a massive drop off after those two it's a bit of a waste of time to try and rank them.

Spinachcat

#3
April 09, 2018, 02:43:32 AM
For me, Jim Ward...because of Gamma World.

JeremyR

#4
April 09, 2018, 04:45:33 AM
Well, how many people even wrote OD&D besides those two? Rob Kuntz, Brian Blume, and Jim Ward. Only one actually had had a career in the industry, really.  Jim Ward wins by default.

AsenRG

#5
April 09, 2018, 04:49:56 AM
Quote from: Nerzenjäger;1033480Dave Wesely, obviously.

Sounds like the best answer to me as well:).
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#6
April 09, 2018, 04:51:49 AM
Rob Kuntz.
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#7
April 09, 2018, 11:33:15 AM
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Willie the Duck

#8
April 09, 2018, 12:46:18 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf;1033514https://hobbylark.com/tabletop-gaming/Frank-Mentzer-The-True-Master-of-Dungeons-and-Dragons

I am all for giving Frank and Moldvay and Dr. Holmes and Zeb and up through Bruce Heard and the like credit where credit is due, but do any of them count as 'people involved in the creation and early years of D&D?' I mean, once you get into that zone, the circle has already expanded to an unwieldy number of influencers including competitors, collaborators, financers and publishers and all of a sudden we're just retelling the whole schpiel.

EOTB

#9
April 09, 2018, 01:01:02 PM
Quote from: Fiasco;1033487It's such a massive drop off after those two it's a bit of a waste of time to try and rank them.

This.
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Ratman_tf

#10
April 09, 2018, 01:53:35 PM
Quote from: Willie the Duck;1033526I am all for giving Frank and Moldvay and Dr. Holmes and Zeb and up through Bruce Heard and the like credit where credit is due, but do any of them count as 'people involved in the creation and early years of D&D?' I mean, once you get into that zone, the circle has already expanded to an unwieldy number of influencers including competitors, collaborators, financers and publishers and all of a sudden we're just retelling the whole schpiel.

So where should we draw the line? OD&D? I thought of Mentzer because the Basic box set was, IMO, the most accessible version of D&D at that time, in a time when the game was taking off in popularity. And I think the two things are directly related.
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Franky

#11
April 09, 2018, 01:57:23 PM
Tim Kask.  What would D&D be without psionics? :rolleyes:

Gary's sons, Ernie at least?

Who of the 'founding fathers' still lives?

Brian Blume was responsible for the Monk class, no?  Or guilty for it.

Headless

#12
April 09, 2018, 03:21:42 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf;1033514https://hobbylark.com/tabletop-gaming/Frank-Mentzer-The-True-Master-of-Dungeons-and-Dragons

So that looks cool.  Its atleast a great sales pitch.  How do I get those.  Or at least the last 2 or 3, masters and immortals.   They look like a good read.

Ratman_tf

#13
April 09, 2018, 03:58:31 PM
Quote from: Headless;1033549So that looks cool.  Its atleast a great sales pitch.  How do I get those.  Or at least the last 2 or 3, masters and immortals.   They look like a good read.

Should be on rpgnow? *goes to check*

http://www.rpgnow.com/product/17167/DD-Master-Set-BECMI-ed-Basic?it=1
http://www.rpgnow.com/product/17166/DD-Immortals-Set-BECMI-ed-Basic?it=1

I had Immortals back in the day but never played it. It's a HUGE departure from the usual D&D, as in the characters can become "Gods" and do godly things.
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Headless

#14
April 09, 2018, 08:54:35 PM
PDF.  Boo.  I don't enjoy reading on a device.  Physical objects only for me.
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