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Which can you play without (a d20 or role-play)?

Started by Shawn Driscoll, April 22, 2016, 02:42:59 AM

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crkrueger

This is a strange question to me because you can bring roleplay nearly to anything.  If you want you can choose to play chess differently depending on whether your King is William the Conqueror (uses castles), Ghenghis Khan (uses horses) or Cromwell (uses peasants and attacks Bishops first) :p.

I can play D&D similar to how I might play random computer dungeoncrawl game X, or I can roleplay while playing.  The key to a RPG is the RP and the G.  Without the G, you're back to playing Cowboys and Indians, or Batman and Robin or whatever and no one ever wins because the argument always comes back to "Yes I did, No you didn't."  Even LARPs have some form of resolving actions and determining the outcome of a contest between two PCs.

Designers give you the game, GM's give you the setting, players bring the roleplay of their characters.  If you're lucky, you've got a game that lets you roleplay without getting in the way mechanically and a GM that lets your character's choices have meaning.

If you gave me a choice between an experience that was pure roleplay with no game at all, and a game that was no roleplay, it doesn't matter to me at all because I could do either one once in a while in between regular RPG sessions. :D
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Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;894448I would choose to get rid of asinine hypothetical questions.

But then Shawn would vanish in a puff of logic.

Ravenswing

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Aw, man, you're answering in a serious fashion!
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daniel_ream

Quote from: Ravenswing;894507Aw, man, you're answering in a serious fashion!

Since that option is more conducive to an interesting discussion than crotchety shitposting....

Yeah, never mind.
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Xuc Xac

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;893528If you had to choose one to get rid of in an RPG session, would you choose the d20 die or would you choose the role-play?

If you went out to dinner at a Chinese restaurant, would you rather do without forks or food?

Orphan81

If you were forced to spend an evening with Shawn Driscoll, would you rather get Shit faced drunk, or meet his mom?
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Quote from: Orphan81;894585If you were forced to spend an evening with Shawn Driscoll, would you rather get Shit faced drunk, or meet his mom?

Shit faced drunk.
"Meh."

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Quote from: Orphan81;894585If you were forced to spend an evening with Shawn Driscoll, would you rather ...

... die, or choke a bitch like Vader?

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Bren

Quote from: Xúc xắc;894584If you went out to dinner at a Chinese restaurant, would you rather do without forks or food?
Nice parallel to the original "dichotomy." :cool:
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Ravenswing

Quote from: daniel_ream;894555Since that option is more conducive to an interesting discussion than crotchety shitposting....

Yeah, never mind.
Eh, there are lots of threads where interesting discussions take place, without needing to dress a pig up in a ballgown.
This was a cool site, until it became an echo chamber for whiners screeching about how the "Evul SJWs are TAKING OVAH!!!" every time any RPG book included a non-"traditional" NPC or concept, or their MAGA peeners got in a twist. You're in luck, drama queens: the Taliban is hiring.

TristramEvans

Quote from: Ravenswing;894680Eh, there are lots of threads where interesting discussions take place, without needing to dress a pig up in a ballgown.

I think that one wins the thread

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