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Where does my D&D 3.5 PC keep all of his STUFF??

Started by Randombilly, June 22, 2013, 08:47:39 PM

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Randombilly

Ok, so I played some D&D when I was in my teenage years, and a small group of friends of mine and I have started back up in our mid-thirties.. I dont think we ever covered this when we were young but... WHERE the heck does my Level 3 Ranger keep all of his stuff???  

 I've only been on a few adventures, but I've got about 1500 Gold Pieces and from what Im reading here and pretty much everywhere thats EXTREMELY heavy.  I feel like you guys wouldnt go to such lengths as to determine how much gold weighs if you werent going to figure in a place to stick it before your character has bought a house..

I looked a lot of places and simply couldnt find an answer for where Im storing my many pounds of gold pieces.. Not to mention when I find items that I clearly need to keep for future adventures (I found a shield with a map on the inside, I keep hoarding swords and axes from fallen foes to sell when I get the chance etc...)

Thanks!

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Quote from: Randombilly;664827Ok, so I played some D&D when I was in my teenage years, and a small group of friends of mine and I have started back up in our mid-thirties.. I dont think we ever covered this when we were young but... WHERE the heck does my Level 3 Ranger keep all of his stuff???  

I looked a lot of places and simply couldnt find an answer for where Im storing my many pounds of gold pieces.. Not to mention when I find items that I clearly need to keep for future adventures (I found a shield with a map on the inside, I keep hoarding swords and axes from fallen foes to sell when I get the chance etc...)

Thanks!

Hello Billy,

many adventurers have similar problems as you do. You want to diversify your adventurer's portfolio, of course. Keep 20% of the gold coins & silver coins as they are, if they are good quality golden/silver coins, the purer the better - the pure metal is hard to lose value. Another 20% you should keep in real estate, as you can always lend it to have a constant stream of coinage, that will pay estate's upkeep as well as give you little profit - enough perhaps to wait through a potential castle market's crash.

Now, what to do with the rest?

Despite the low interest rates, you may wish to leave about 10% in the bank. Dwarven banks are advised, as dwarves have a very strict policy regarding inter - bank lending rules, security of their banks & deposits, powerful army to protect them as well as coin spoilage - so you ought to profit slightly larger above kingdom's minting inflation. The remaining 50% of gold is a true plethora of choice. My personal advice would be to invest 10% in King's royal venture/war obligations, unless you are worried about Kingdom's stability, or about the nature of the venture - see the Orlean's Venture flop of Louis the XIV for example. Still, the backing of royal power usually guarantees safety of such investment. I'd also advice keeping 10% in form of valuable arts & magical items. Don't invest in potions, they tend to spoil too quickly - invest in potion - making ventures instead. You should now keep the 20% in various stocks - I suggest the mines especially, and the remaining 10% in an investment fund. Again, I suggest going with dwarves or gnomes.


Jokes aside - that's what encumbrance rules are for ;). There are quite a few abstract versions of them too, if you don't want the whole bookkeeping. LotFP's I found really useful, both for D&D and other fantasy RPGs. That, and buying an ox wagon can pay some real dividends, if you are going to loot battlefields.
Furthermore, I consider that  This is Why We Don\'t Like You thread should be closed

Mistwell

In his magical pack of Don't Sweat the Minor Boring Stuff.  Same place he keeps his torches and waterskins and arrows and rations.

Randombilly

Quote from: Mistwell;664832In his magical pack of Don't Sweat the Minor Boring Stuff.  Same place he keeps his torches and waterskins and arrows and rations.

Right, that's [where] I figured, until I found forums of people who've got the exact weight, down to the ounce, of how much the gold pieces should weigh.
I'm going to need to find a DM with a lot of organization skills who wants to keep track of investments rates of return because I'm pretty into that other idea of diversifying my Rangers portfolio!!
I do, though, want to buy a house. Possibly for no other reason than to design one on graph paper and cover the technicality of where does he park his donkey and carriage once I get one.

Black Vulmea

Of course your guy has a mule, right? To carry the locked chest with his gold in it?

Or he converted them to small gemstones, right? To make them easy to carry and liquidate as needed?

Or he got a note of credit from a merchant in that last town, right? One that will be honored by the other members of his guild?


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Converting them into gems is what the pros do.

And portable holes are very handy.

Randombilly

Quote from: JeremyR;664838And portable holes are very handy.

OOooo!

Fair enough, Im going to consider this case closed.

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Quote from: Mistwell;664832In his magical pack of Don't Sweat the Minor Boring Stuff.  Same place he keeps his torches and waterskins and arrows and rations.

I have to disagree here: for at least a few times it is worth considering the "what do I do with all this gold I just got, I don't want to just get it stolen from me" problem if you are new to the game. 1500 gold pieces is not minor boring stuff to most of the characters in the setting! Even some pretty big fish would not pass up the chance to grab that if they didn't have to go too far out of the way.

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Quote from: Randombilly;664827Ok, so I played some D&D when I was in my teenage years, and a small group of friends of mine and I have started back up in our mid-thirties.. I dont think we ever covered this when we were young but... WHERE the heck does my Level 3 Ranger keep all of his stuff???  

 I've only been on a few adventures, but I've got about 1500 Gold Pieces and from what Im reading here and pretty much everywhere thats EXTREMELY heavy.  I feel like you guys wouldnt go to such lengths as to determine how much gold weighs if you werent going to figure in a place to stick it before your character has bought a house..

I looked a lot of places and simply couldnt find an answer for where Im storing my many pounds of gold pieces.. Not to mention when I find items that I clearly need to keep for future adventures (I found a shield with a map on the inside, I keep hoarding swords and axes from fallen foes to sell when I get the chance etc...)

Thanks!

Gygax kinda screwed up on his weights for coin; his weight (10 gold coins weigh a pound) is vastly out of scale with "real" gold coins (keep in mind, he was writing in a time when real money hadn't been in circulation for many decades, instead people use paper/fiat today).

A 19th century $1 gold coin would weigh around 1/20 of an ounce (by no great coincidence the Spanish 1/2 Escudo of 500 years ago weighed this much, and even the Byzantine Solidus was comparable), so 1500 gold would be around 5 lbs, if you wanted it in coin--that's still kinda heavy, but if you have a decent strength, no big deal; for what it's worth, that's about $100,000 in today's currency.

Again, historically, much wealth past that would be put into jewellery, which would weigh even less. albeit not so liquid.

For extensive spare weapons, consider a pack mule, which can carry quite a bit.
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Quote from: Randombilly;664827Ok, so I played some D&D when I was in my teenage years, and a small group of friends of mine and I have started back up in our mid-thirties.. I dont think we ever covered this when we were young but... WHERE the heck does my Level 3 Ranger keep all of his stuff???  

Let's not overlook the obvious... from the 1e AD&D PHB, p. 25:

QuoteRangers may own only those goods and treasure which they can carry on their person and/or place upon their mount; all excess must be donated to a worthy communal or institutional cause (but never to another player character). (cf. Paladin above.)

Note, though, that there's no limit on the value of the ranger's accumulated wealth, just the bulk. The gem/jewelry option is a good one. House? Not so much, because of that restriction.

Edit: I notice that the thread title doesn't match the title of your post. Not sure how that happened, but I see you're talking specifically about 3.5. Now, I have no immediate info on the rules for 3.5 rangers, but did they change them radically from the 1e ranger? In other words, did they ditch the wealth limits?

kythri

I don't recall the wealth limit on the ranger.

A quick perusal of my 3E and 3.5 PHB doesn't seem to show anything there.

Randombilly

Quote from: talysman;664865Let's not overlook the obvious... from the 1e AD&D PHB, p. 25:



Note, though, that there's no limit on the value of the ranger's accumulated wealth, just the bulk. The gem/jewelry option is a good one. House? Not so much, because of that restriction.

Edit: I notice that the thread title doesn't match the title of your post. Not sure how that happened, but I see you're talking specifically about 3.5. Now, I have no immediate info on the rules for 3.5 rangers, but did they change them radically from the 1e ranger? In other words, did they ditch the wealth limits?

I've read all the way through the Players Manual and the Dungeon Masters Guide and [Im going to say, thankfully] it makes no mention of a ranger not accumulating 'stuff.'

Randombilly

Quote from: kythri;664857In 3.5, it's 50 coins to the pound.

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/equipment/wealthAndMoney.htm

As far as storage, poof:

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/wondrousItems.htm#bagofHolding

OH!! See, I've heard of "bag of holding.."  
Lets just say I was to have a willing Dungeon Master, but one who intended to follow the rules of the land (whatever land it is were playing in).. Is a bag of holding a common enough item that it wouldnt be wildly unfair to just say I happened across a traveling merchant who would sell one?