Quote from: Omega;1128880Far as I know theres nothing wrong in the book itself. Its Mercer himself that was the turnoff. Same as if I'd known Sarkesian and Quin were part of the Betrayal at House on the Hill, I'd have likely considered passing on it.

From my own read through, I didn't find enough in it to make it stand out. In some places, particularly the lifting of the boring 4e "every god rehashed and drained of flavor" pantheon (Bahamut, Moradin, Raven Queen, Pelor, Kord, etc.) done in an even more rehashed and drained of flavor way, I just felt like it was bad homebrew.

Quote from: Shasarak;1128824I know people tell me not to judge a book by its cover, but I judged that book by its cover.

Could they not afford to get one of the decent DnD artists?

This one?


Yeah that didnt grab me either. Why werent they using their own artists who are pretty good judging from their animated shorts. Not sure who did the comics.

I had a glance through it when at the store and none of the art looked like it was from the series? Looks bog standard 5e overall.

Also... retread art from Volo, Mordenkainen and Xanithar? Really?

Quote from: Omega;1128882This one?


Yeah that didnt grab me either. Why werent they using their own artists who are pretty good judging from their animated shorts. Not sure who did the comics.

I had a glance through it when at the store and none of the art looked like it was from the series? Looks bog standard 5e overall.

Also... retread art from Volo, Mordenkainen and Xanithar? Really?

You'd think that people putting out a gaming product would know to steer away from the d12 by now. But here they just rubbed the numbers off and threw it on the cover.

And FYI: BelieveAllWomen has been around a long long time. At least since the 70s when my stepmother tried to murder my dad and then called the cops when it failed and told them he assaulted HER. The cops knew who was guilty, but had to take my dad in because... women!

And this is part of why we get these pushbacks as invariably women can and will abuse it till its meaningless. I mean we are back, again to "rape" being a joke now due to the insane levels of abuse of the term.

Quote from: HappyDaze;1128883You'd think that people putting out a gaming product would know to steer away from the d12 by now. But here they just rubbed the numbers off and threw it on the cover.

Hey now! Pythagoras loved the dodecahedron!

Quote from: Omega;1128885Hey now! Pythagoras loved the dodecahedron!

And when was the last time he put anything new out?

QuoteThe way I see it is you have an Alignment axis. On one hand you have the LG people who are both Good and Consistant with what they believe and on the other hand you have the CG people who are both Good and Inconsistant with what they believe depending on the situation.

It is no point a Lawful person asking a Chaotic person to be consistant because they would not even understand what you are talking about.

I cannot say how much I hate such defining of Chaotic/Lawful axis.
Whether you are consistent of not - should depend of your Intelligence and Wisdom score - one for understanding of abstract concepts and another for
Chaotic - Lawful is more anarchy/libertarianism vs big state / empire and in more spiritual sense stasis vs change of the world.

I hate those charts that define CN as guys with low Wisdom basically

QuoteWhat do you think of the Critical Role book? I leafed through it briefly at my game store, just to take a look. Ehh. I didn't really see anything that leaped out at me as worthwhile. and you know I can't stand whiny, SJW politics being shoved down my throat, either. I'm not really clear on what the Critical Role book is actually trying to accomplish--for a game to really be like Critical Role, you need cameras and mics and people that are really good at acting, and super-interested in the drama of the campaign and all that. Am I making any sense? Maybe I am interpreting it wrong though.

There were other books than Tal'Dorei and Wildemount Campaign Settings which are well terribly generic campaign setting, because well what can I say - as I am like 10 episodes into first campaign, I cannot say Mercer do campaigns that are really interesting - it's entertainment value came from acting abilities and comedic timing of his players.

Quote from: HappyDaze;1128886And when was the last time he put anything new out?

Well one of his fans came up with a dodecahedron crystal...


But joking aside thats one of the more uninformative covers for a IP products out there. When fist glanced at it did not even realize it was related to Critical Role.

Quote from: Wicked Woodpecker of West;1128916I cannot say how much I hate such defining of Chaotic/Lawful axis.
Whether you are consistent of not - should depend of your Intelligence and Wisdom score - one for understanding of abstract concepts and another for
Chaotic - Lawful is more anarchy/libertarianism vs big state / empire and in more spiritual sense stasis vs change of the world.

I hate those charts that define CN as guys with low Wisdom basically

I always love a good Alignment discussion.

Funny enough in Polish Alignment is very badly IMHO translated as "Charakter" which means more personality or nature, and in this sense Chaotis as bad-organised is kinda ok.
But since we have those Great Cosmic Powers in D&D and English term is more of your affinity and support of their cause, I see no reason to avoid very disciplined agent of Anarchy or clueless disorganised followers of Law.

Also treating it more religiously-politically than personality per se cuts off this Chaotic Neutral - as psychopatic GM bane PC alignment

In my OD&D, the Lawful/Neutral/Chaotic alignment is simple. If your PC believes in the value of civilization with its rules, roads, taxes and kings, then you're Lawful. If your PC thinks all that stuff is crap to be avoided, mocked or ignored, you're Chaotic. If your PC either doesn't have strong feelings about civilization either way and takes each situation on its own based on what's best for the PC at the moment, then you're Neutral. Lawful gods are highly authoritarian. Neutral gods are those uninvolved with civilization - often abstract concepts, like a Goddess of Beauty or spirits of a certain location, like a Living Sea. Chaotic gods are primal forces. Elemental and nature gods, in my games, are Chaotic gods - aka, gods of storms, wild hunts, wild growth and erosion.

Quote from: Wicked Woodpecker of West;1128947Funny enough in Polish Alignment is very badly IMHO translated as "Charakter" which means more personality or nature, and in this sense Chaotis as bad-organised is kinda ok.
But since we have those Great Cosmic Powers in D&D and English term is more of your affinity and support of their cause, I see no reason to avoid very disciplined agent of Anarchy or clueless disorganised followers of Law.

Discipline and Cluelessness are not really alignment descriptors though.  You could really apply them to any individual and on the other hand is your disciplined Anarchist going to be consistent day to day?  Is Han Solo going to have a itemised check list for regular maintenance on the Millennium Falcon?  Well maybe but you never see that in the movie.

QuoteAlso treating it more religiously-politically than personality per se cuts off this Chaotic Neutral - as psychopatic GM bane PC alignment

I always saw Han Solo as starting off CN shifting to CG.  I dont know how psychopatic he would be in a campaign.

Quote from: Philotomy Jurament;1128716The next U.S. presidential election could embrace the ridiculous, circus-like nature of modern U.S. politics and go with Trump/Pence vs. Clinton/Obama (Hillary and Michelle). "Are you not entertained?..."

"Bread and Circus for All".

Thus far no heroic comments in defense of believing Tara Reade from Mercer.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1129528Thus far no heroic comments in defense of believing Tara Reade from Mercer.

Cher & AOC are leading the way with the new DNC slogan "We believe Tara and we're voting for Biden because Orange Man Extra Bad."