Quote from: Shasarak;1128644The way I see it is you have an Alignment axis.  On one hand you have the LG people who are both Good and Consistant with what they believe and on the other hand you have the CG people who are both Good and Inconsistant with what they believe depending on the situation.

It is no point a Lawful person asking a Chaotic person to be consistant because they would not even understand what you are talking about.

I think it is debatable whether the people in this situation are good at all.  An inconsistently good person might protect one woman but not protect another woman.  These folks aren't doing that.  They are using violence against women as a weapon against their political enemies.  It merely has a side effect of possibly protecting a woman, but that's only incidental to what they're doing.  When they circle the wagons and protect their own as they have with the accusations against Biden and as they did in the 90s with the accusations against Clinton, they are actively protecting abusers.  That's not merely being inconsistently good, it's being evil.

Quote from: kidkaos2;1144039I think it is debatable whether the people in this situation are good at all.  An inconsistently good person might protect one woman but not protect another woman.  These folks aren't doing that.  They are using violence against women as a weapon against their political enemies.  It merely has a side effect of possibly protecting a woman, but that's only incidental to what they're doing.  When they circle the wagons and protect their own as they have with the accusations against Biden and as they did in the 90s with the accusations against Clinton, they are actively protecting abusers.  That's not merely being inconsistently good, it's being evil.

We are still talking about Matt Mercer, right?

Quote from: Shasarak;1144040We are still talking about Matt Mercer, right?

I think they're saying Matt Mercer is Chaotic Evil.

Quote from: VisionStorm;1144059I think they're saying Matt Mercer is Chaotic Evil.

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Hmmmmmm......

(From the Mythica movies.  First movie has a better-than-average getting the party together schtick.)

The logical inconsistency is baffling.

It's amazing how quickly threads get locked and banning is threatened on some sites when you merely point it out!

So in the spirit of putting money into things that make sense, I just bought a nice hardcover lion and dragon.  Conversely, the leftward WOTC is getting nothing from me anymore until I see how they go back and revise lore to placate the twitter mob.

There was a discussion on another site where a few of us dared to question whether orcs are actually racist...the mob can only shriek at higher frequency about how it feels!  It must be true!. This and the Mercer pronouncement are clear: feelings and impressions are valid...so long as they line up with the narrative

Quote from: Warpiglet;1144240There was a discussion on another site where a few of us dared to question whether orcs are actually racist...the mob can only shriek at higher frequency about how it feels!  It must be true!. This and the Mercer pronouncement are clear: feelings and impressions are valid...so long as they line up with the narrative

You can actually see people claiming that they have proved conclusively that Orcs are Racist and point you to huge threads where, somewhere within they assure you, the proof lies.

Quote from: Shasarak;1144242You can actually see people claiming that they have proved conclusively that Orcs are Racist and point you to huge threads where, somewhere within they assure you, the proof lies.

Omg!  I know!  So I posted a few interesting bits about how RPGs are related to improved social development and LESS racism.  Not tons of data, but data.

You can imagine the reaction.  More shrill religion of the chorus.

"You mean you can't change this one little bit when it hurts people?!"  

And that is the rub.  I don't think it hurts anyone to have evil goblins, orcs or whatever.  Just like this believe all women stuff...it's a mantra, a faith---not subject to any validation or analysis.  And if you try to actually verify or look more closely you show without a shadow of a doubt that you are a racist, misogynist or whatever.  By merely questioning

Quote from: Shasarak;1144242You can actually see people claiming that they have proved conclusively that Orcs are Racist and point you to huge threads where, somewhere within they assure you, the proof lies.

Greetings!

*Laughing* So true, Shasarak!:D

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: Warpiglet;1144246And if you try to actually verify or look more closely you show without a shadow of a doubt that you are a racist, misogynist or whatever.  By merely questioning

Textbook kafkatrapping. The article that coined the term is a good read.

Did WotC cancel their new adventure where orcs smash up a cobbler's shop and steal the shoe boxes full of bread?

Quote from: Warpiglet;1144240So in the spirit of putting money into things that make sense, I just bought a nice hardcover lion and dragon.  

Thank you! I hope you enjoy it.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1144421Thank you! I hope you enjoy it.

Absolutely.  I am looking forward to it.  I am planning to drop a lot of the church and class things into my D&D game.

I think playing a more historical game would be nice to try as well if I can get my buddies to try it!

Quote from: Warpiglet;1144240The logical inconsistency is baffling.

It's amazing how quickly threads get locked and banning is threatened on some sites when you merely point it out!

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There was a discussion on another site where a few of us dared to question whether orcs are actually racist...the mob can only shriek at higher frequency about how it feels!  It must be true!.

Lawful stupid runs rampant on sites like those.

EDIT: Apparently advocating for real life mental illnesses to be included in the game is acceptable, but making a suggestion in jest that if one desires such realism then perhaps one could adopt the 1e mechanic where men are stronger than women, that sends progressives into rage, frothing at the mouth, screaming sexism and a threadban.
I imagine the site of a 1e PHB would Turn or (if fortunate) Destroy Progressive.

Quote from: Shasarak;1144040We are still talking about Matt Mercer, right?

Yes.  I'm putting forth the idea that #believeallwomen SJW's aren't merely hypocritical, they are actively bad/evil.  I think it's worse than just being inconsistent.  What we're talking about here is violent crime.  This isn't like complaining about the Koch brothers but giving Soros a pass or complaining about capitalism while using your iphone and wearing your Nikes.  That is garden variety hypocrisy that both sides engage in.  But the things the left has been doing in the past few months are a much worse situation where they will excuse or defend violent criminals whether they are Democrat politicians accused of sexual assault or rioters assaulting people and destroying property or censoring Covid information that disagrees with the accepted experts.  This is a case of peoples' partisan actions causing violence, robbery, and death.  I realize it sounds hyperbolic, but it's actually true.

Quote from: Sadras;1144484Lawful stupid runs rampant on sites like those.

EDIT: Apparently advocating for real life mental illnesses to be included in the game is acceptable, but making a suggestion in jest that if one desires such realism then perhaps one could adopt the 1e mechanic where men are stronger than women, that sends progressives into rage, frothing at the mouth, screaming sexism and a threadban.
I imagine the site of a 1e PHB would Turn or (if fortunate) Destroy Progressive.

Yeah, you can't have it both ways. If you want your stupid eighty genders and mental illnesses as part of the game for 'realism', I'm going to enforce strength caps.

Part of me can't help but wonder if there's some projection here on the SJWs' part, where they look at the behavior of orcs and are perhaps uncomfortably reminded of certain events plaguing Chicago?

But hey, that's none of MY business.