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What Would You Like In A Fantasy OSR Product?

Started by jeff37923, October 02, 2019, 02:51:25 AM

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Iron Cross

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1123500Anime artwork, "edgy" setting material, and maybe the authors can take some harsh potshots at punk culture and the Millennial generation in the text every now and then.

I say we should embrace what is edgy and reject what is woke and "deep".

No more pretentious pseudo-intellectual "games are art" bullshit!

I agree with all that except for the anime artwork. Anime is the home of woke millennial SJW snowflakes.

Mordred Pendragon

Quote from: Iron Cross;1123523I agree with all that except for the anime artwork. Anime is the home of woke millennial SJW snowflakes.

Wrong.

Most SJW Millennial snowflakes hate anime and typically prefer Marvel capeshit.

The only anime that's popular among SJW's is My Hero Academia, which is explicitly meant to be a take on the superhero genre and is very inspired by Marvel and DC capeshit.

If we had an OSR book with anime artwork (especially scantily-clad anime artwork), the SJW millennial punks would seethe.
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Cave Bear

Quote from: Iron Cross;1123523I agree with all that except for the anime artwork. Anime is the home of woke millennial SJW snowflakes.

Is the Cthulhu mythos the home of woke millenial SJW snowflakes? They buy Cthulhu plushies and t-shirts all the time, but only while vocally condemning H.P. Lovecraft's racism and while distancing themselves from everything that makes his stories unique.

It's the same with anime. Most SJW's don't actually like anime. It's at best a guilty pleasure for them. More often, they only pretend to like what's trendy. When they actually watch anime they spend most of their time complaining about it.

Mordred Pendragon

Quote from: Cave Bear;1123620Is the Cthulhu mythos the home of woke millenial SJW snowflakes? They buy Cthulhu plushies and t-shirts all the time, but only while vocally condemning H.P. Lovecraft's racism and while distancing themselves from everything that makes his stories unique.

It's the same with anime. Most SJW's don't actually like anime. It's at best a guilty pleasure for them. More often, they only pretend to like what's trendy. When they actually watch anime they spend most of their time complaining about it.

This guy gets it
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Spinachcat

Doc Sammy, what is anime in your mind? Is it an art style? A storytelling style? A genre of its own?

AKA, what would make an OSR game anime? Especially in actual play?

Mordred Pendragon

Quote from: Spinachcat;1123656Doc Sammy, what is anime in your mind? Is it an art style? A storytelling style? A genre of its own?

AKA, what would make an OSR game anime? Especially in actual play?

Well, in this specific context, I was referring to the artwork in the book.
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Cave Bear

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1123673Well, in this specific context, I was referring to the artwork in the book.

We really need an English edition of Sword World.

Jaeger

Quote from: Cave Bear;1123677We really need an English edition of Sword World.

I think a translation of sword world would be very interesting, probably won't get the same level of promotion that Maid and Panty expolsion got on RPGnet though, but one can't expect miracles...

An interesting take on popular RPG's in Japan; And how their RPG culture/Market is affected by different things than ours:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmqxjnflwf0

At 2:55 n the video you can see on the far right a "Anime" art cover for what I would assume is a Japanese supplement for CoC. Gives the game a different look.

Interesting that even with CoC being dominant in Japan now, that there still seems to be an underlying willingness to try different systems, even if you play one more than others. (according to the video - I am open to correction!).

It is an interesting contrast to the US market where D&D is ridiculously dominant now, and the hobby's player base at large is essentially D&D only, with very little interest in trying other systems.

It would be interesting to figure out which cultural aspects cause such a difference.
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Cave Bear

Quote from: Jaeger;1123682I think a translation of sword world would be very interesting, probably won't get the same level of promotion that Maid and Panty expolsion got on RPGnet though, but one can't expect miracles...

An interesting take on popular RPG's in Japan; And how their RPG culture/Market is affected by different things than ours:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmqxjnflwf0

At 2:55 n the video you can see on the far right a "Anime" art cover for what I would assume is a Japanese supplement for CoC. Gives the game a different look.

Interesting that even with CoC being dominant in Japan now, that there still seems to be an underlying willingness to try different systems, even if you play one more than others. (according to the video - I am open to correction!).

It is an interesting contrast to the US market where D&D is ridiculously dominant now, and the hobby's player base at large is essentially D&D only, with very little interest in trying other systems.

It would be interesting to figure out which cultural aspects cause such a difference.

I've seen the physical books for Sword World. They're tiny! Much thicker than the old OD&D booklets, but with a much smaller trim size, like pocket-dictionary sized.
And they contain so many tables! I think your average The RPG Site user would really like it if they could get over the anime thing.

Spinachcat

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1123673Well, in this specific context, I was referring to the artwork in the book.

Yes, but what about beyond the artwork?

CMON just had a $2.8M Kickstarter by doing a Chibi Marvel boardgame. To me, it looked like Marvel Babies. However, I don't know anything about Chibi fandom and whether a game needs more than compressed minis to be "True Chibi".

So when talking about OSR Anime, it would be a zero no-brainer for someone to take S&W or LL and hire some anime art to go along with the recycled text. However, would that really be an Anime RPG?

Mordred Pendragon

#55
Quote from: Spinachcat;1123697Yes, but what about beyond the artwork?

CMON just had a $2.8M Kickstarter by doing a Chibi Marvel boardgame. To me, it looked like Marvel Babies. However, I don't know anything about Chibi fandom and whether a game needs more than compressed minis to be "True Chibi".

So when talking about OSR Anime, it would be a zero no-brainer for someone to take S&W or LL and hire some anime art to go along with the recycled text. However, would that really be an Anime RPG?

I suppose what I would like in an OSR anime game is something in the vein of the dark and edgy ultra-violent anime from the 80's and 90's.

Stuff like Devilman, Ninja Scroll, Vampire Hunter D, Mad Bull 34, Angel Cop, Legend of Lyon Flare, Genocyber, etc.

Lots of gore, violence, nudity, harsh language, dark storylines, and other "problematic" content that is directly and explicitly antithetical to both the Anarcho-Communist and Postmodernist morality of the Western Left and the puritanical Judeo-Christian morality of the Western Right.

I want something that is directly antithetical to the woke punk morality of the Millennial Left.

Something that is explicitly reactionary, openly problematic, proudly degenerate, fun-loving, anti-pseudo-intellectual and utterly immoral, and the game's setting is the kind whose lore openly and proudly celebrates capitalism and ancient paganism (the real kind, not that pretentious fake Wiccan stuff)

To use a music analogy, I'd love an OSR game that is less like pretentious indie hipster and left-wing punk and more like true kult black metal.

I want the kind of game that would give Vox Day a heart attack and trigger Darren MacLerran so hard that he'd choose to put a gun in his mouth and kill himself in terror.

No, MYFAROG does not count. It's not OSR and Varg is a petulant Nordicist fucktard clinging onto dumb Neo-Nazi bullshit. The Nazi caveman bullshit Varg Vikernes constantly spews is just Protestant morality in fake pseudo-pagan dress. Now, he used to make good music, even if he is a racist asshole and a Nordcuck moron.

But seriously, fuck Varg Vikernes and fuck MYFAROG

Getting back to topic...

The anime artwork would be there to serve as an extra dose of pissing off woke Millennial capeshit lovers and because I genuinely like the anime art style.

Personally, I think I should revive my Cybermetal idea and apply it to an OSR mechanical framework with these ideas in mind...
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Opaopajr

Doc Sammy, are you suggesting we be EdgeLords? :eek: Is your nascent goth punk growing in your heart? :cool::p
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Cave Bear

Quote from: Doc Sammy;1123782I suppose what I would like in an OSR anime game is something in the vein of the dark and edgy ultra-violent anime from the 80's and 90's.

Stuff like Devilman, Ninja Scroll, Vampire Hunter D, Mad Bull 34, Angel Cop, Legend of Lyon Flare, Genocyber, etc.

Lots of gore, violence, nudity, harsh language, dark storylines, and other "problematic" content that is directly and explicitly antithetical to both the Anarcho-Communist and Postmodernist morality of the Western Left and the puritanical Judeo-Christian morality of the Western Right.

I want something that is directly antithetical to the woke punk morality of the Millennial Left.

Something that is explicitly reactionary, openly problematic, proudly degenerate, fun-loving, anti-pseudo-intellectual and utterly immoral, and the game's setting is the kind whose lore openly and proudly celebrates capitalism and ancient paganism (the real kind, not that pretentious fake Wiccan stuff)

To use a music analogy, I'd love an OSR game that is less like pretentious indie hipster and left-wing punk and more like true kult black metal.

I want the kind of game that would give Vox Day a heart attack and trigger Darren MacLerran so hard that he'd choose to put a gun in his mouth and kill himself in terror.

No, MYFAROG does not count. It's not OSR and Varg is a petulant Nordicist fucktard clinging onto dumb Neo-Nazi bullshit. The Nazi caveman bullshit Varg Vikernes constantly spews is just Protestant morality in fake pseudo-pagan dress. Now, he used to make good music, even if he is a racist asshole and a Nordcuck moron.

But seriously, fuck Varg Vikernes and fuck MYFAROG

Getting back to topic...

The anime artwork would be there to serve as an extra dose of pissing off woke Millennial capeshit lovers and because I genuinely like the anime art style.

Personally, I think I should revive my Cybermetal idea and apply it to an OSR mechanical framework with these ideas in mind...

It's not exactly OSR, but you might be interested in a game I'm designing.

The character sheet so far (WIP).
Spoiler

[ATTACH=CONFIG]4198[/ATTACH]


Will have illustrations as soon as I buy a new flatbed scanner.

Cave Bear

#58
Quote from: Doc Sammy;1123782I suppose what I would like in an OSR anime game is something in the vein of the dark and edgy ultra-violent anime from the 80's and 90's.

Stuff like Devilman, Ninja Scroll, Vampire Hunter D, Mad Bull 34, Angel Cop, Legend of Lyon Flare, Genocyber, etc.

Lots of gore, violence, nudity, harsh language, dark storylines, and other "problematic" content that is directly and explicitly antithetical to both the Anarcho-Communist and Postmodernist morality of the Western Left and the puritanical Judeo-Christian morality of the Western Right.

I want something that is directly antithetical to the woke punk morality of the Millennial Left.

Something that is explicitly reactionary, openly problematic, proudly degenerate, fun-loving, anti-pseudo-intellectual and utterly immoral, and the game's setting is the kind whose lore openly and proudly celebrates capitalism and ancient paganism (the real kind, not that pretentious fake Wiccan stuff)

To use a music analogy, I'd love an OSR game that is less like pretentious indie hipster and left-wing punk and more like true kult black metal.

I want the kind of game that would give Vox Day a heart attack and trigger Darren MacLerran so hard that he'd choose to put a gun in his mouth and kill himself in terror.

No, MYFAROG does not count. It's not OSR and Varg is a petulant Nordicist fucktard clinging onto dumb Neo-Nazi bullshit. The Nazi caveman bullshit Varg Vikernes constantly spews is just Protestant morality in fake pseudo-pagan dress. Now, he used to make good music, even if he is a racist asshole and a Nordcuck moron.

But seriously, fuck Varg Vikernes and fuck MYFAROG

Getting back to topic...

The anime artwork would be there to serve as an extra dose of pissing off woke Millennial capeshit lovers and because I genuinely like the anime art style.

Personally, I think I should revive my Cybermetal idea and apply it to an OSR mechanical framework with these ideas in mind...

It's not exactly OSR, but you might be interested in a game I'm designing. I'll have illustrations for it as soon as I have my flatbed scanner working. Here's the character sheet so far, though:
Spoiler

Snowman0147

#59
I kinda want to see a OSR version of Warhammer Fantasy (Daniel Fox's game does not count Questing Beast), and Warhammer 40K.

As for what Sammy had said?  I notice that the SJWs have this strong hatred for everything 90's.  I don't know why, but maybe we should explore the reason as to why.  Though Edge Lord the game might be fun for a session, or two.