So what system would you like to see an Open Gaming or Creative Commons License for that currently doesn't have one?

That's a good question. Hmm.

Well, my first thought was Pendragon. Sure, the core game is Chaosium's BRP, but I'm more interested in the stuff unique to Pendragon. Specifically, the Traits and Passions mechanics.

Unisystem.

If someone besides Eden could publish them, we might actually see more than three books a year usable for my favorite system...

(Knightsky, not to derail but may I applaud your taste in music?  Hardcore Johnny Cash fan here).

For doubly-selfish reasons: (that is to say, I'd probably/maybe publish something if they were available): GURPS3, BRP, and the R. Talsorian house-system circa Mekton II and TFOS would all be of interest. Probably some others, too, but those leap to mind.

For singly-selfish reasons (that is, for my own gamerly consumption ... I know groovy designers that would do great things with them): All of those listed above, plus Unisystem, GURPS4, the Hero System, BESM1 and/or BESM2, Alternity, and the old JB007 rules.

Alternity would be a good one.  I loved that system.

Ummm...Storytelling. Id love to be able to release my own homebrew stuff for it and make money.

Unknown Armies...excellent game system, also an excellent setting, but I'd love to see Bill Bridges, Justin Achilli, or Monte Cooke play with it

I think the chaosium system as used in "Ringworld" would be great as a universal system.

HERO.

I'd also say James Bond 007, but my homebrew rips it off already without the benefit  (or restrictions) of a license. That whole "you can't copyright game rules" thing, dontcha know.

I'd like more of the background/flavor text of certain d20 books that only have mechanics open to be open. Principally Portals & Planes.

Whether anyone wants it or not, I'm opening the StarCluster System. When I get a chance, I'm putting it in PD.

-mice

I'd like to see more games under a Creative Commons or Open Gaming License.  I don't know if there are any off the top of my head that I would want exactly, but d20 proved that the model works...as long as the products are quality.

Although I suppose they would be, because unlike d20, which was tied to D&D, there wouldn't be as many people "pissing into the pot" so to speak.

Quote from: joewolzI'd like to see more games under a Creative Commons or Open Gaming License.  I don't know if there are any off the top of my head that I would want exactly, but d20 proved that the model works...as long as the products are quality.

I'm not convinced that "the model works."  In fact, I think it was a serious downfall to the industry as a whole and wound up socking gobs of money into one particular pot (with a smaller amount into several other pots and the rest sprayed around so that many, many pots got very, very little).

All the while, flooding the marketplace with crap from anyone with internet access, a laser printer and Adobe Acrobat.

QuoteAlthough I suppose they would be, because unlike d20, which was tied to D&D, there wouldn't be as many people "pissing into the pot" so to speak.

I'm still not convinced that the open source model works without vast amounts of external advertising dollars.  You just don't see a lot of outside companies pumping money into the gaming market.  It'll start "succeeding" (in a business sense) when you start seeing "Pepsi" and "McDonald's" emblems in the books.  (...or in the pictures, particularly in a post-apoc game.)

I'm sorry to disagree, but the OGL and SRD are directly to blame for the "beginning of the end" of the RPG industry and are the biggest culprits for the nose-dive the market has taken in the past 12 - 24 months.

Quote from: joewolz[...] but d20 proved that the model works...as long as the products are quality.

Although I suppose they would be, because unlike d20, which was tied to D&D, there wouldn't be as many people "pissing into the pot" so to speak.

It's a double-edged sword, though. The pot-pissing is part and parcel of participation. Or, in less indulgently alliterative language: it "works" because of the ties to D&D, and without those ties, there's no real reason to assume any other use of the model would achieve any kind of real sticking power.

Quote from: VellorianI'm not convinced that "the model works."  In fact, I think it was a serious downfall to the industry as a whole and wound up socking gobs of money into one particular pot (with a smaller amount into several other pots and the rest sprayed around so that many, many pots got very, very little).
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I'm sorry to disagree, but the OGL and SRD are directly to blame for the "beginning of the end" of the RPG industry and are the biggest culprits for the nose-dive the market has taken in the past 12 - 24 months.

I'm gonna say poppycock.

I think d20 challenged the smaller press games because it competed in their space. I have seen better quality in independant and small press games since the d20 license than before it, because it challenged those writers to do better to compete.

Quote from: VellorianI'm sorry to disagree, but the OGL and SRD are directly to blame for the "beginning of the end" of the RPG industry and are the biggest culprits for the nose-dive the market has taken in the past 12 - 24 months.

The market has taken a nose dive due less to d20 than to a complete breakdown of the three tier system, which is coincidental with d20.  The paperback book distribution system melted down at the same time, and they didn't have anything to do with d20.

Don't be sorry to disagree, this board would suck if if all thought the same way!