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What setting/property should D6 go for?

Started by Joey2k, April 14, 2016, 08:17:17 PM

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Christopher Brady

#15
April 15, 2016, 02:00:23 PM
None of them, it should its own IP.  Licenses are not cheap.
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Simlasa

#16
April 15, 2016, 02:25:57 PM
Quote from: Christopher Brady;891997None of them, it should its own IP.  Licenses are not cheap.
I agree... much better to build from scratch or file the IP off of something they can actually own and run with however they like.
Even my desire to see an Andersonverse game is probably going to be better served by someone taking inspiration from that source than a designer who is locked down by legal constraints and fanboy nitpicking.

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#17
April 15, 2016, 04:03:14 PM
Quote from: Simlasa;891829A general Andersonverse game that somehow blends all the shows... UFO/Space 1999/Thunderbirds/Captain Scarlett/Joe 90/etc... even Space Precinct.

Oooh I like that!

Granted it's pretty niche and I don't think it would have a wide appeal.
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The Butcher

#18
April 15, 2016, 05:58:39 PM
Umm, tough call.

New school space opera. Something like Iain Banks' Culture or Alastair Reynolds' Revelation Space. Only not as grim as Eclipse Phase.

Science fantasy and/or sword & planet. Is E. R. Burroughs' stuff public domain in the US yet?

Fantasy with swashbuckling and/or steampunk elements. Something a WoW player might latch on to. Gnomes in zeppelins and stuff.

A good, old-fashioned men's adventure pulp RPG, with plenty of room for supernatural weirdness.

Joey2k

#19
April 15, 2016, 06:40:16 PM
Would it be crazy if they teamed up with SyFy and put out stuff for all the cool SyFy series like Dark Matter, Killjoys, Defiance, The Expanse, even Z Nation?

Of course, that's part of what did them in back in the day, grabbing up every B list license they could. Still, some of those would be cool to see in RPG form.
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Bradford C. Walker

#20
April 15, 2016, 08:30:52 PM
License NOTHING.

Instead, make products that allow the user to hit up his fan wiki of choice and effortlessly let him roll his own fan campaign.

We don't need "official" stuff anymore. The Internet handles all that nit-picky obsessive shit better than any gaming product ever will, so stop trying. Stick to what you actually fucking need: a way to take natural language and turn it into playable stat blocks.

Ronin

#21
April 15, 2016, 09:10:51 PM
Lots of good ideas here, but....
Quote from: Christopher Brady;891997None of them, it should its own IP.  Licenses are not cheap.
A lot of truth in that statement.
As we are spit balling here though. I would like to see,

Into the Badlands

Peaky Blinders

Baltimore, or The Steadfast Tin Soldier and the Vampire

Although the genre is way over done nowadays, The Walking Dead would be a huge franchise.
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daniel_ream

#22
April 15, 2016, 09:20:01 PM
Quote from: Bradford C. Walker;892081Instead, make products that allow the user to hit up his fan wiki of choice and effortlessly let him roll his own fan campaign.

I think debadged versions of _Men in Black_ and _Hercules & Xena_ would be gameable.  I don't know how well they'd sell.
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Christopher Brady

#23
April 15, 2016, 09:27:21 PM
Quote from: Bradford C. Walker;892081License NOTHING.

Instead, make products that allow the user to hit up his fan wiki of choice and effortlessly let him roll his own fan campaign.

The issue with this, is that American litigation being what it is, if it's 'too similar' to the thing that it wants to crib from, you're getting sued.  Or you're paying for a license which would allow one to actually use those fan Wikis better.
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Opaopajr

#24
April 15, 2016, 09:38:52 PM
Quote from: Technomancer;892069Would it be crazy if they teamed up with SyFy and put out stuff for all the cool SyFy series like Dark Matter, Killjoys, Defiance, The Expanse, even Z Nation?

Of course, that's part of what did them in back in the day, grabbing up every B list license they could. Still, some of those would be cool to see in RPG form.

That actually sounds really cool. I have ended up liking SyFy's past season of shows. A collaboration, especially with the pick up and play speed of d6, could be truly killer.

But a little goes a long way. If they were to do it, it would have to be with the whole channel from the onset. That way if the channel wanted to parley Face Off past works as a Monster Manual folio, you don't have to go through complete renegotiations or worry about massive print runs. Basically it'd be a concessions vendor for the equivalent of niche silk screen t-shirts, but a wide spread choice of images.
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Opaopajr

#25
April 15, 2016, 09:49:41 PM
Quote from: Bradford C. Walker;892081License NOTHING.

Instead, make products that allow the user to hit up his fan wiki of choice and effortlessly let him roll his own fan campaign.

We don't need "official" stuff anymore. The Internet handles all that nit-picky obsessive shit better than any gaming product ever will, so stop trying. Stick to what you actually fucking need: a way to take natural language and turn it into playable stat blocks.

Isn't that already the setting agnostic genre splats? Space d6, Fantasy d6, etc. just add DIY elbow grease for setting conversions? Doesn't seem to be working out too great for them.

There's something to be said for a strong opinion and direction, hence settings more detailed beyond loose genre conventions appearing to do better.

Or are you proposing a mechanistic translation of language into d6 system widgets? That sounds like an even harder challenge, particularly in more interpretive areas. At some point you're going to have to "contain" all comparable nouns from all popular settings within a singular math formula spectrum, which is like asking for the world's largest fandoms to dogpile in a free-for-all shitstorm.
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Joey2k

#26
April 16, 2016, 12:12:22 AM
Other than the aforementioned SyFy stuff, I always thought the 1980s Buck Rogers tv series was a prime candidate for a D6 write-up.

Or maybe Flash Gordon.

(Which I believe actually was a short lived SyFy series).
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daniel_ream

#27
April 16, 2016, 01:15:17 AM
Quote from: Technomancer;892111Or maybe Flash Gordon.

(Which I believe actually was a short lived SyFy series).

You wouldn't recognize it as Flash Gordon, though.
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Soylent Green

#28
April 16, 2016, 03:38:25 AM
Quote from: Technomancer;892069Would it be crazy if they teamed up with SyFy and put out stuff for all the cool SyFy series like Dark Matter, Killjoys, Defiance, The Expanse, even Z Nation?

Of course, that's part of what did them in back in the day, grabbing up every B list license they could. Still, some of those would be cool to see in RPG form.

Good thinking. A WEG/Syfy deal would seem like an ideal match. Defiance in particular is made for gaming (it was tied to a computer game).

But you are also right in pointing out the downfall of license. They cost money, they date a product and have a limited shelf life due to the license expiring.

It is actually worse now that so many sales are pdf based. It used to be that when the license ran out you could still carry on selling the physical stock of the product you had which could keep it in the shops for years. Now, the all the pdfs are withdrawn sale the very day after the license expires.
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#29
April 16, 2016, 11:29:29 AM
Quote from: Technomancer;892111Other than the aforementioned SyFy stuff, I always thought the 1980s Buck Rogers tv series was a prime candidate for a D6 write-up.

Or maybe Flash Gordon.

(Which I believe actually was a short lived SyFy series).

   Pinnacle's working on Flash Gordon for Savage Worlds, and after the various TSR attempts, I doubt anyone in the hobby will touch Buck Rogers for fear of being associated with Lorraine Williams.
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