Quote from: Spinachcat;973162In my view, Witches can cast magic. Cultists are apprentices, wannabe freaks, muscle and other not-yet or not-ever casters.

Sometimes cultists are granted powers by the beings they worship. Anyway cultists are (evil) priests. Witches are (evil) mages. Or at least that's how I like to use them if I do horror with the players being mortal hunters or investigators. I generally make them less evil and more morally grey if I do urban fantasy, because the players are able to play those characters.

Defining Witches is quite hard in RPing terms as they seem to be quite varied.

But when someone mentions Witch to me, I generally think of the Satanic stereotype.

The Arkham Gazette has a whole issue dedicated to witches and covens I want to check out.

Cultists are people who practice a religion you don't approve of.

Witches are people who practice a magical style you don't approve of.

Yeah, Cultists and Witches are two different categories. It's like asking "what's the difference between a Belgian and an Engineer"?

Quote from: RPGPundit;974056... "what's the difference between a Belgian and an Engineer"?

Belgians talk sexier?

Quote from: RPGPundit;974056"what's the difference between a Belgian and an Engineer"?

Quote from: trechriron;974185Belgians talk sexier?

No.  Obviously it's that the engineer is German.

Quote from: trechriron;974185Belgians talk sexier?

They don't even talk. Belgians are a made-up people.

Quote from: RPGPundit;975007They don't even talk. Belgians are a made-up people.

I'll just leave this here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e-3dfQK7w4

One's religious, one's not.  Next question?

A Witch is a Hybrid Spell User of the Realms of Essence and Channeling (RMCII).

A Cultist is a Semi Spell User of the Realm of Channeling (RMCVI).

I know Cthulhu and Kult have a focus mostly on cultists. Is there a setting that has both cultists and black magic users in spades? I am searching for it, but it often leads me to Cthulhu (I don't want to do the Mythos), WoD (I don't like the way the books are written), Esoterrorists (I don't like the Gumshoe system), Unknown Armies (Too weird and I don't want to have magic using pc's) or Ghostories (Too sparse on setting material). I am a bit clueless here and I am searching my ass off, but all I seem to find to my liking is often historical like Witch Hunters Invisible World, Shadows of Esteren and Lex Occultum. But I do want a modern game. Is there a game that focuses mostly on the occult (possessions, hauntings, black magic/witchcraft, cults/sacrifices, demons etc.) and has a setting with all of that straight out of the can?

Quote from: jan paparazzi;975414I know Cthulhu and Kult have a focus mostly on cultists. Is there a setting that has both cultists and black magic users in spades? I am searching for it, but it often leads me to Cthulhu (I don't want to do the Mythos), WoD (I don't like the way the books are written), Esoterrorists (I don't like the Gumshoe system), Unknown Armies (Too weird and I don't want to have magic using pc's) or Ghostories (Too sparse on setting material). I am a bit clueless here and I am searching my ass off, but all I seem to find to my liking is often historical like Witch Hunters Invisible World, Shadows of Esteren and Lex Occultum. But I do want a modern game. Is there a game that focuses mostly on the occult (possessions, hauntings, black magic/witchcraft, cults/sacrifices, demons etc.) and has a setting with all of that straight out of the can?

C.J. Carella's Witchcraft?

Quote from: jan paparazzi;975414I know Cthulhu and Kult have a focus mostly on cultists. Is there a setting that has both cultists and black magic users in spades? I am searching for it, but it often leads me to Cthulhu (I don't want to do the Mythos), WoD (I don't like the way the books are written), Esoterrorists (I don't like the Gumshoe system), Unknown Armies (Too weird and I don't want to have magic using pc's) or Ghostories (Too sparse on setting material). I am a bit clueless here and I am searching my ass off, but all I seem to find to my liking is often historical like Witch Hunters Invisible World, Shadows of Esteren and Lex Occultum. But I do want a modern game. Is there a game that focuses mostly on the occult (possessions, hauntings, black magic/witchcraft, cults/sacrifices, demons etc.) and has a setting with all of that straight out of the can?

If you're looking for that where the PCs aren't necessarily meant to be supernatural themselves, there's Beyond the Supernatural by Palladium.

Quote from: CRKrueger;976123If you're looking for that where the PCs aren't necessarily meant to be supernatural themselves, there's Beyond the Supernatural by Palladium.

A highly under-rated game!