The WH40K RPG's all need lots of work to be playable. oWoD isn't all that great. nWoD had big issues. D&D, Pathfinder aren't that great either. Exalted 1e and 2e had issues. In fact, I'd make the case that just about every good selling RPG had glaring flaws in it.

Settings:
oWoD makes no sense re: vampire populations and all the various sects in the past.
Forgotten Realms is great if you only focus on the RPG products and ignore the novels
Golarian is like a marketing department tried to develop a setting. It's skin deep and shoehorns everything possible in it while having no soul at all

More just about my personal dislikes.

Rifts - For me a melting pot of 'zaney' ideas and I haaate the system.
After the bomb (or anything similar) - I really hate the concept of playing little furry animal mutants with martial arts (or laser guns).
Shadowrun - I still can't get my head around the idea of Orcs in trenchcoats. The mix of fantasy and cyberpunk is just horrible.

Original World Of Darkness.

Hands down. It was a complete and utter mess.

Eberron and 3rd Edition were certainly a terrible mix. Eberron was supposed to more pulpy and high action than regular D&D, so they gave you Action Points that let you re-roll an action. That's fine, but they gave you around five per level, and the opportunity for one re-roll isn't enough to make me feel much more comfortable jumping between two airships than I would be in a normal D&D game.

Because 3E was so protective of its math about how powerful character were supposed to be at every level, and how what items they were supposed to have, it seemed like they had the idea for Action Points, then realized they didn't want them to mess up their formulas for encounter difficulty, so they made sure they were almost entirely useless.

Quote from: Krimson;962939I could never get into Shadowrun because my first Cyberpunk experience was William Gibson unless you count Blade Runner, and my ADD did not like the idea of mixing D&D into it.

Neuromancer and its sequels played heavily with the idea of technology as humanity's way of trying to find a kind of transcendence. Cyberspace was clearly meant to evoke a spirit world and using it evoked magic.

Shadowrun took all that stuff from Neuromancer that was symbolic, then also put a literal Astral Plane and magic in the world right next it. It's all painfully redundant. "In case you didn't get that deckers are symbolic of shamans entering the spirit world, we have put some shamans going into the spirit right next to your decker so you can see it more clearly!" It's just dumb, over-cluttered world design.

Of course, the correct answer is: all RPGs I don't like suck, as do all the fans of those games.

I not a fan of 3e/5e D&D, but worst for me isn't truly meaningful if those games somehow bring pleasure to the inferior humans.

I know most of the fans say that the 90s was the "Golden Age" for Glorantha, but I think the setting pretty much peaked in the 80s. Back then, it was a really awesome sword & sorcery setting, with some unique ideas about cults and monsters and things. But since the early 90s, it's been all navel gazing and anthro-wankery. Now it takes itself way too seriously, and current attitudes about the setting have basically ruined it for me.

Quote from: RPGPundit;962627Forget the ones that were never successful, like heartbreakers or most Forge games.

I mean games or settings that sold moderately well or more, and yet you think they sucked absolute ass.

Pathfinder.  Took 3e/3.5e and turned the munchkin dial up to 11.  For that matter I never liked 3rd or 3.5 much to begin with.

Quote from: Herne's Son;963022I know most of the fans say that the 90s was the "Golden Age" for Glorantha, but I think the setting pretty much peaked in the 80s. Back then, it was a really awesome sword & sorcery setting, with some unique ideas about cults and monsters and things. But since the early 90s, it's been all navel gazing and anthro-wankery. Now it takes itself way too seriously, and current attitudes about the setting have basically ruined it for me.

Glorantha was a lot more fun before it took itself seriously.  King of Sartar is when I lost interest.

Quote from: Dumarest;962834So the South abolished slavery but kept fighting the Civil War because...?

Because the demon possessing Jefferson Davis wanted the war to continue.

Quote from: CRKrueger;963034Because the demon possessing Jefferson Davis wanted the war to continue.

I can't tell if you're pulling my leg or the setting is really that stupid.

Quote from: Dumarest;963040I can't tell if you're pulling my leg or the setting is really that stupid.

In Deadlands there's a chance everyone who dies comes back as a demon-possessed corpse.  Abe Lincoln came back too, and most of the time can control the spirit, but he kept it secret.

Quote from: CRKrueger;963042In Deadlands there's a chance everyone who dies comes back as a demon-possessed corpse.  Abe Lincoln came back too, and most of the time can control the spirit, but he kept it secret.

Wow. But then again people watched Two and a Half Men so there's an audience for everything.

Quote from: CRKrueger;963042In Deadlands there's a chance everyone who dies comes back as a demon-possessed corpse.  Abe Lincoln came back too, and most of the time can control the spirit, but he kept it secret.

Close. The public thinks Lincoln is dead and buried, but when he came back Harrowed he was snatched up by the Pinkertons/Agency. Then he was supposed to be killed for good by Stone until Pinnacle got cold feet from reader backlash about the deaths of Lincoln and a bunch of other iconic figures.

Quote from: Headless;962687I can't see how anyone could answer this with out claiming someone (actually many people since it must be a popular game) are haveing bad/wrong fun.

That's the point. Its chum.

Quote from: Brand55;963047Close. The public thinks Lincoln is dead and buried, but when he came back Harrowed he was snatched up by the Pinkertons/Agency. Then he was supposed to be killed for good by Stone until Pinnacle got cold feet from reader backlash about the deaths of Lincoln and a bunch of other iconic figures.

I figured Dumarest would prefer a short version.