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What's the Worst RPG or Setting That's Actually Popular?

Started by RPGPundit, May 16, 2017, 05:54:21 PM

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Dumarest

#150
May 23, 2017, 03:00:27 PM
Quote from: AsenRG;963933Given that a number of RPGs in the top 5 sellers contain a setting in the corebook, and a number of their fans dislike the system that comes with it, you can answer that question for yourself;).

Really can't as I don't know what the Top 5 are either.:o

AsenRG

#151
May 23, 2017, 03:55:37 PM
Quote from: Dumarest;963942Really can't as I don't know what the Top 5 are either.:o

Nobody is sure, but the latest I've found with a Google search is this:).
https://icv2.com/articles/markets/view/35144/top-5-rpgs-spring-2016
Three or four of the top sellers do contain their own settings, which are then expanded by setting supplements, I'm not sure whether PF does.
If Pathfinder doesn't introduce its default setting Golarion in the corebook, that would be "only" three out of five;).
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S'mon

#152
May 23, 2017, 04:03:57 PM
Quote from: AsenRG;963951Nobody is sure, but the latest I've found with a Google search is this:).
https://icv2.com/articles/markets/view/35144/top-5-rpgs-spring-2016
Three or four of the top sellers do contain their own settings, which are then expanded by setting supplements, I'm not sure whether PF does.
If Pathfinder doesn't introduce its default setting Golarion in the corebook, that would be "only" three out of five;).

Pathfinder corebooks are setting neutral and in fact are only 99% compatible with Golarion. Eg Golarion Clerics must have a patron deity unlike in core Pathfinder.
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S'mon

#153
May 23, 2017, 04:05:37 PM
Quote from: Justin Alexander;963930Yup. That's a perfect example of the sort of white supremacist rhetoric that makes Deadlands' alternate history problematic.



Yes. Because, as you've just demonstrated, it gives people spouting white supremacist rhetoric both an excuse for doing so and then a pseudo-plausible claim that it's "just for fun" or "just for the game" even in situations where they literally just got done using the game as an excuse for introducing the fake-history rhetoric into a conversation about the real world.

Are you calling Christopher Brady a White Supremacist? :confused:

(I find the Deadlands alternate history for much the same reasons you do, not disagreeing on that.)
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Justin Alexander

#154
May 23, 2017, 08:22:18 PM
Quote from: fearsomepirate;963937Egalitarian progressivism is such a latecomer to world-historical affairs that constructing a fantasy setting that has absolutely no "troubling" or "problematic" callbacks to the Unenlightened Before Times*. In fact, based on the latest developments in Progress, I doubt you can even reference anything before 2012.

*Most people on the Union side were white supremacists, including Lincoln, Grant, and Sherman. So it's best to avoid that era entirely.

You're equating the accurate reporting of racism with the whitewashing of history in order to pretend the racism never existed and then describing both acts as equally racist. There's not one step in that train of logic which makes any sense.

Quote from: S'mon;963956Are you calling Christopher Brady a White Supremacist? :confused:

I'm saying that he's posting white supremacist rhetoric. The degree to which you feel that makes him a white supremacist is at least somewhat a matter of personal opinion.
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Omega

#155
May 23, 2017, 08:34:57 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf;963914It got better. 4th actually brought it back from the abyss of stupidity.

I'm going to say Greyhawk. I think it's popularity is in large part being "Gary's campaign". The actual material is boring as all get out.

I like Greyhawk for its relatively mid-range between high and low magic settings and the general backstory of the land. Oddly its overall even-ness became my yardstick for if a setting was too high fantasy or not. Much like BX's Karameikos.

crkrueger

#156
May 23, 2017, 09:14:46 PM
Quote from: Justin Alexander;963930Yup. That's a perfect example of the sort of white supremacist rhetoric that makes Deadlands' alternate history problematic.

Except, Deadlands alternate history doesn't split until Gettysburg, and regardless of what you think of it, they never once claim what's Brady's claiming.
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fearsomepirate

#157
May 24, 2017, 08:23:55 AM
Quote from: Justin Alexander;963983You're equating the accurate reporting of racism with the whitewashing of history in order to pretend the racism never existed and then describing both acts as equally racist. There's not one step in that train of logic which makes any sense.

Did you just copy and paste a bunch of random strings from tumblr? Because I said nothing of the kind.
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AsenRG

#158
May 24, 2017, 11:09:36 AM
Quote from: S'mon;963954Pathfinder corebooks are setting neutral and in fact are only 99% compatible with Golarion. Eg Golarion Clerics must have a patron deity unlike in core Pathfinder.
Thank you, so we can inform Exploderwizard that it's just the other three in the Top 5 that contain a setting, and in at least one case, the setting is used more than the system;).

Quote from: S'mon;963956Are you calling Christopher Brady a White Supremacist? :confused:

(I find the Deadlands alternate history for much the same reasons you do, not disagreeing on that.)
What's going on with Cupcake:D? I mean, enough people quoted his posts for me to know that he went MRA in an earlier thread, what did he do now?
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Christopher Brady

#159
May 24, 2017, 02:39:33 PM
I'm a white supremacist MRA now?

And no one told me??

WHY AM I THE LAST ONE TO KNOW THESE THINGS???
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Nexus

#160
May 24, 2017, 02:45:53 PM
Quote from: AsenRG;964057What's going on with Cupcake:D? I mean, enough people quoted his posts for me to know that he went MRA in an earlier thread, what did he do now?

MRA? What are you talking about?
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Christopher Brady

#161
May 24, 2017, 02:48:09 PM
You know what?  Let's stop this, this has nothing to do with Vampire or what people claim that Hite is going to do with it.  This thread is past the 11 page mark anyway, let's go bash another game or something on another thread.
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Bedrockbrendan

#162
May 24, 2017, 02:53:55 PM
Quote from: Christopher Brady;964103You know what?  Let's stop this, this has nothing to do with Vampire or what people claim that Hite is going to do with it.  This thread is past the 11 page mark anyway, let's go bash another game or something on another thread.

This is not the Kenneth Hite Thread.

Christopher Brady

#163
May 24, 2017, 02:59:50 PM
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;964105This is not the Kenneth Hite Thread.

Whoops.  They're all starting to blur.  Sorry, this thread IS about bashing game systems.
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Omega

#164
May 24, 2017, 03:07:43 PM
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;964105This is not the Kenneth Hite Thread.

Speaking of...

I've seen people bash the various WoD settings and while Im not overly fond of them I think part of the problem for others seems to be they didnt bother actually reading the backstory enough. If at all. Moreso in later iterations where they tried to merge the settings into one. Its an odd approach. But it works perfectly for the sort of combined setting they eventually went with.
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