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Quote from: yojimbouk;790896In D&D style games I would say 3.5e and 4e. Both games focus on rules rather than rulings.

Same here for D&D games, although I'd probably rank them as 4e being the least OSR-ish and 3x/5e sharing the number 2 spot, not only because they are "system first" designs, but also because they aren't part of the DIY aesthetic. The OSR is a bunch of people churning out their own adventures, supplements and adaptations of old school D&D. Once you get into companies that have actual employees, even if the companies are financially shakey with no actual office space, you're moving away from the OSR.

For non-D&D RPGs, I'd probably say Puppetland is the least OSRish, although FATE-based systems would be a more famous example.

The least OSRish game I've played and liked is probably inSpectres.

D&D 3.xE/Pathfinder. This was the game that the OSR started as a reaction against, with its entire "New School" attitude and way of thought, i.e. huge focus on system mastery/optimization, character skill rather than player skill, explicit rules for everything, highly tactical combat, big emphasis on game-balance and the rest of the New School way of play.

4E is similar in it being very different than OSR, with highly tactical combat and a "leveled" world (you meet "level-appropriate" challenges) and very explicit things your character can and cannot do.

5E, on the other hand, is almost OSR, or maybe *is OSR*, at least it feels like OSR in play, i.e. non-tactical combat, bounded accuracy (as opposed to the archetypal new-school power-curve), no "leveled" world (goblins are a threat even at high levels), very freeform skill system and the cutting back of the modifier/buff spam and the 15-minute workdays (i.e. the big bugs of 3.xE).

Disclaimer: I love D&D 3.5E and enjoy playing it (though I enjoy D&D 5E and ACKS better), but it ISN'T old-school in any way.

EDIT: outside of D&D, I'd actually say Shadowrun and GURPS. The point-buy fine-tuning chargen you spend many hours on is as opposed as it can get from the "roll 3d6 six time in order and pick a class" mentality of the OSR. These games out-"New School" D&D 3.xE by a large margin. Both games are, historically speaking, quite old (from the 1980's), but are diametrically opposed to the main OSR concepts.

I would say an indie-game called "My life with Master". I've played it a few times in local conventions and these are my experiences:

First, My Life with Master is a real story game in a sense that it has features you see in story (development, turn and end) and players are supposed to play their parts in this story. Depending on how well characters do their fate is determined by player decisions.

Second, My Life with Master has no potential for campaign play whatsoever as it supports only a single scenario. This makes the gameplay highly repetitive due story game nature. Naturally there is no dynamic gameplay either.

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Any game done by Ben Lehman is actually in opposition with the OSR philosophy (note that it is not something bad by itself).

Quote from: yabaziou;791959Any game done by Ben Lehman is actually in opposition with the OSR philosophy (note that it is not someting bad by itself).

No, but any game done by Ben Lehman is bad by itself regardless.

Quote from: Nikita;791954I would say an indie-game called "My life with Master". I've played it a few times in local conventions and these are my experiences:

First, My Life with Master is a real story game in a sense that it has features you see in story (development, turn and end) and players are supposed to play their parts in this story. Depending on how well characters do their fate is determined by player decisions.

Second, My Life with Master has no potential for campaign play whatsoever as it supports only a single scenario. This makes the gameplay highly repetitive due story game nature. Naturally there is no dynamic gameplay either.

Oh, that reminds me of this .. uh ... gem?

Maid

WTF D&D Review of Maid

Quote from: Certified;792144Oh, that reminds me of this .. uh ... gem?

Maid

WTF D&D Review of Maid

Not at all.

Maid RPG (I also have it in my book shelf but unfortunately have not played it with anyone but myself) is essentially everything you want from your Old School Renaissance game. It has randomly rolled characters, rulings rather than rules and everything is done with GM/player interaction. It has also excellent background ideas for campaigning as maido with all great stereotypes you see in your favorite manga and anime.

However, the random nature of everything also makes rather curious adventure/campaign combinations and many reviewers seem to have problems with its concept of sexuality...

Quote from: RPGPundit;792124No, but any game done by Ben Lehman is bad by itself regardless.

Hehe, that is the kind of thing I expect from you, Pundit !

More to the point, I will cite Amber as a rather old RPG (1st published in 1991) who is not OSR at all even if two rather new games (Lords of Olympus and Lords of Gossamer and Shadow) try to revive it.

As a tangent, I remember fondly of an Amber game where I played Dominique, a Lady/Lord of Amber who refused to reveal her/his gender and had murdered everyone who did know this piece of information. We had such a fun that evening !

Quote from: Nikita;792147However, the random nature of everything also makes rather curious adventure/campaign combinations and many reviewers seem to have problems with its concept of sexuality...

That one image from the SA article sums it up for me.  Age 9?  I want to punch the designer in the dick.

Quote from: Nikita;792147Not at all.

Maid RPG (I also have it in my book shelf but unfortunately have not played it with anyone but myself) is essentially everything you want from your Old School Renaissance game. It has randomly rolled characters, rulings rather than rules and everything is done with GM/player interaction. It has also excellent background ideas for campaigning as maido with all great stereotypes you see in your favorite manga and anime.

However, the random nature of everything also makes rather curious adventure/campaign combinations and many reviewers seem to have problems with its concept of sexuality...

I am pretty sure that pedophily is not an acceptable form of sexuality but a terrible crime !

Yes, the lovely maid is a common trope in anime as the harem, but at least stick to nubile people (who have reach the age of consent) ...

My spidey-sense is tingling.

Quote from: ThatChrisGuy;792215That one image from the SA article sums it up for me.  Age 9?  I want to punch the designer in the dick.

Quote from: WTF D&DZack: In summary, don't buy this game. Don't even steal it for free. It's garbage, half the book is a fucking play test chatlog worse than our bunker drama, and it is full of gross child sex stuff. it's all in "good humor" and not explicit, but yuck.

All you ever needed to know about Maid, right there.

Yup, but remember kiddies, Zak S. and James Desborough are toxic perverts who are responsible for rape culture in RPGs.

The guys who like Poison'd and Maid? Oh no, you see, they're socially-conscious ARTISTS, so they're allowed to play out scenes of throatfucking a cabin boy or molesting a prepubescent maid with a broom handle.  Because they're the educated elite, they don't need to follow the very rules they seek to forcibly imposed on those they consider their inferiors.

Quote from: RPGPundit;793017Yup, but remember kiddies, Zak S. and James Desborough are toxic perverts who are responsible for rape culture in RPGs.

The guys who like Poison'd and Maid? Oh no, you see, they're socially-conscious ARTISTS, so they're allowed to play out scenes of throatfucking a cabin boy or molesting a prepubescent maid with a broom handle.  Because they're the educated elite, they don't need to follow the very rules they seek to forcibly imposed on those they consider their inferiors.

I don't know anything about these games or their authors; do they actually have these sorts of pretensions?