AD&D.  The rules just never made any sense to me, there seemed no logic at all.

Years later, with greater understanding, I still think it's a fucking mess.

Others vary and it has definite fans, I wish them joy of their games.

Chivalry & Sorcery.  Made Aftermath! look like Risus.

Rifts. Seriously, what the fuck?

I did not care for Champions.

Quote from: Akrasia;402093Heh.  I think you misunderstood me.  

No, not really... just having a bit of fun... and any excuse to put a bag on Ms. Rhand/Rand is good enough for me.

Quote from: D-503;402163AD&D.  The rules just never made any sense to me, there seemed no logic at all.

I felt the same... I ran it for a while but it never came anywhere near intuitive... but somehow the simplicity of OD&D clones have been putting a draw on me lately.

I don't think Torg counts as 'old school' but I really didn't care for it's approach to mash-up... it seemed too constrained.

Quote from: D-503;402163AD&D.  The rules just never made any sense to me, there seemed no logic at all.

Years later, with greater understanding, I still think it's a fucking mess.

The rules definitely are a mess, as I've come to realize in my second session. It takes at least 2,000 gold pieces a week to train up to the next level, usually takes two weeks or more.

And that's at first level. Considering you get EP for gold (1:1 basis, usually), and many classes require 2000 or less EP to get to second level, there's a bit of a problem here (above and beyond living expenses and other details). I'm pretty sure I didn't start using the training rules until 4th level, though, back when I played this in the 80s.

I managed to find my 2nd Edition PHB, still looking for the 2nd edition DMG, hoping it adds some clarity to what the 'intended' rules were, as there are serious issues in RAW here.

That said, still having loads of fun playing the old clunker.

"Hit Thaag In Face With Rock" never set well with me. "Kick Thaag In Nuts", on the other hand - or foot - was a bundle of joy!

-clash

Then there's the old school game that produces bundles of joy. Always a winner, in my book. Or cave wall, if you will.

Quote from: Elliot Wilen;402189Then there's the old school game that produces bundles of joy. Always a winner, in my book. Or cave wall, if you will.

Back in real old skool days, bundles of joy came from the Gods. Coed Wrestling had nothing to do with it. Did you know that it was Krunk who came up with the name "Bundles of Joy"? We laughed and laughed! Good old Krunk! He was a riot until they made him "Thaag For A Day".

-clash

Quote from: flyingmice;402187"Hit Thaag In Face With Rock" never set well with me. "Kick Thaag In Nuts", on the other hand - or foot - was a bundle of joy!

-clash

"Drag Thaag Woman to Dark Corner of Cave" unnecessary, brought negative attention from whole rest of tribe, nearly ruin hobby.  Still fun to play.

HERO

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Hrm...


That might be about it. I didn't ever really "hate" any system - guess I don't run to strong emotions.

Quote from: D-503;402163AD&D.  The rules just never made any sense to me, there seemed no logic at all.Years later, with greater understanding, I still think it's a fucking mess...

At this point, I was thinking "Dumbass..."

Quote...Others vary and it has definite fans, I wish them joy of their games...

Then I thought, "...but a polite dumbass..."

Quote...Chivalry & Sorcery.  Made Aftermath! look like Risus...

Then I thought,"...I still have a nostalgic attachment to the impenetrable and arcane C&S system, but goddamn if the polite dumbass doesn't have a point..."

QuoteRifts. Seriously, what the fuck?

Then I thought, "Holy shit, the dumbass is my brother, after all!"  

Quote from: Philotomy Jurament;402254At this point, I was thinking "Dumbass..."


Then I thought, "...but a polite dumbass..."


Then I thought,"...I still have a nostalgic attachment to the impenetrable and arcane C&S system, but goddamn if the polite dumbass doesn't have a point..."


Then I thought, "Holy shit, the dumbass is my brother, after all!"  

Back when I was younger and stupider, I was quite angry about AD&D.  Fuck knows why, nodoby was forcing me to play it.

If invited to play it I'd likely have made some comment about how it didn't make sense and nobody in their right mind would play it etc.

Nowadays, I'd ask if there were any house rules in effect and I'd reach for the dice.  Given the right group I'm sure I'd have a ball.

Hopefully I'd get a Magic User.  The magic in AD&D is to be fair very evocative.

Quote from: D-503;402410Back when I was younger and stupider, I was quite angry about AD&D.  Fuck knows why, nodoby was forcing me to play it.

If invited to play it I'd likely have made some comment about how it didn't make sense and nobody in their right mind would play it etc.

Nowadays, I'd ask if there were any house rules in effect and I'd reach for the dice.  Given the right group I'm sure I'd have a ball.

Hopefully I'd get a Magic User.  The magic in AD&D is to be fair very evocative.

As I grow old, I find harder and harder to hate games to the point to say outright 'No' to play them. Running them may be a different question, of course.

Hating is usually a waste of neurons.

Quote from: Imperator;402427As I grow old, I find harder and harder to hate games to the point to say outright 'No' to play them. Running them may be a different question, of course.

Hating is usually a waste of neurons.

Precisely how I've felt for some time now. I'll play almost anything, running is another matter entirely. And "hating" a game? WTF? Maybe RaHoWa or FATAL, but really, honestly hating a nice, regular game like GURPS or D&D or whatever? I just don't get it.

I'm done with the hate.

I thought this was about games you dislike and not games that you hate?

While I dislike certain games, I've never actually played any games that were truly hate worthy.