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What is the Best WOTC Edition of D&D?

Started by Jam The MF, August 09, 2022, 11:53:42 PM

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Jason Coplen

#165
December 30, 2024, 02:50:15 PM
Friends don't let friends play WOTC D&D.
Running: HarnMaster, and prepping for Werewolf 5.

yosemitemike

#166
December 31, 2024, 01:47:01 AM
Quote from: Chris24601 on December 30, 2024, 10:45:40 AMAlso because most of the critics I know in real life never actually played it, they jumped right to PF and extolled it's virtues.

Lots of critics have including both of the people criticizing it in this thread have played it.

Quote from: Chris24601 on December 30, 2024, 10:45:40 AMI know many say that's impossible, but it was no harder than doing it for 3e (which also based all its combat on a 5' grid) and people do that all the time.

I would say it's impossible for 3e too.  I mean to actually play the game as written without a ton of fudging and hand waving. 

Quote from: Chris24601 on December 30, 2024, 10:45:40 AMSo, yeah, when a description clashes with my experiences (again, from several different DMs so it's not just a "this one GM was really good" thing) then I'm going to provide a counterpoint.

Apparently, what you are going to do is try to dismiss criticism by assuming that the critics haven't played the game even if you know nothing about them.

Quote from: Chris24601 on December 30, 2024, 10:45:40 AMMy question would be, did you start with the assumption it would play like a board game and get proven right because you played it that way, or did you go in with the idea that you can do everything you'd normally be able to do in an RPG?

I played it and then I assessed it.  It felt like a boardgame version of an MMO.

Quote from: Chris24601 on December 30, 2024, 10:45:40 AMBecause I know for me and those I played with, we treated it like any other rpg

The boardgame aspects became apparent after a few combats.  I guess you could minimize that by not running combat much or by fudging combat/"theatre of the mind" but that doesn't really change anything.
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QueenofElflandsSon

#167
January 02, 2025, 03:22:03 PM
I don't think I ever want to run 5E – or any WOTC edition – but I'm having a lot of fun playing in a 5E game right now. I don't have a lot of time to put into figuring out complicated systems and spells, so I intentionally created a character without magic and I appreciate how simple playing the character can be in a system that is way more complex than I have time for – without giving up how effective the character can be.
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