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What is Magical Tea Party?

Started by Aglondir, July 11, 2013, 10:26:38 PM

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mcbobbo

#360
August 13, 2013, 03:34:19 PM
Quote from: Haffrung;680908But it isn't Mike's job to make sure Kevin has a fair shake and has a good time.

This depends on the expectations of those at the table.

Is Mike allowed to introduce rules from a new splat book that make Kevin's character obsolete?

Because if Mike reserves that right then so does he inherit the responsibility of this privilege.
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robiswrong

#361
August 13, 2013, 05:40:02 PM
Quote from: Haffrung;680908I disagree. Players shouldn't be dicks. But the only thing they have to concern themselves with in the game is their own PC and that PC's behaviour. Unless your group is toxic, they won't intentionally do things to piss off other players. But it isn't Mike's job to make sure Kevin has a fair shake and has a good time. It isn't his job to ensure the game runs smoothly and is fun for everyone. Just as my players find it irksome to be given control of something outside their PCs knowledge or control (narrativism), they find it annoying to be responsible for stuff outside their PC control.

If you have players whose fun is dependent on harming other players' characters, it's a problem.  Yes, the thief wants to steal.  It's still a bad idea.

Part of it is an abuse of the implicit social contract "we won't kick you out of the group because you're part of the group".  Knowing this, the player has the character do things that *would* get the character kicked from the group in the lack of that general understanding.

So everyone is responsible primarily for their character, but general levels of social behavior and not being a dick are still appropriate.

James Gillen

#362
August 14, 2013, 01:24:07 AM
Quote from: Rincewind1;680653You know why Stevie Wonder can't read?

'cos he's black.

Now THAT's tasteless. ;)

JG
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Libertad

#363
September 01, 2013, 03:56:56 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;670164It's a term quite most often used by people whenever the GM needs to make a ruling for anything.  Ever.  These people feel like every possible scenario must be addressed in the rules, and the GM shouldn't be allowed to make a ruling at any time, or they aren't playing a "real" game, and are playing MTP instead.  it is often paired with "mother-may-I".

It's really nothing more than a passive aggressive way to tell someone that they are having badwrong fun playing RPGs.

Codified ules for sex and pregnancy pretty much disprove Magical Tea Party.

D&D is an objectively better game when it doesn't include these things, as every implementation I've seen for "realism" or "immersion" actually made the session worse in some way, shape, or form.

The Traveller

#364
September 01, 2013, 04:13:35 PM
Quote from: Libertad;687537D&D is an objectively better game when it doesn't include these things, as every implementation I've seen for "realism" or "immersion" actually made the session worse in some way, shape, or form.
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TristramEvans

#365
September 01, 2013, 06:37:15 PM
Quote from: The Traveller;687543Strapping a saddle to a cow doesn't make it a racehorse.

For that you need an Ostrich.

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