Well I missed too much, but good to see Lawful Good settle back into accord.

As for Catpissmen, I worked a video game shop and a tabletop game/hobby shop, let alone work Cons and attended some unsavory locations from innocuous game invitations. Catpissmen are very real, both from body odor funk (sometimes medical; yes, that's real too) and from actual cat piss. I've even been to (very depressingly unclean) homes where the cats spray marked everything — and one time I myself ended up leaving with my removed hoodie sprayed when I briefly lost attention to where the cats were.

Needless to say I have become far more selective with whom I game and where as I have gotten older. Hanging out at nightclubs with vomiting drunks pissing about in public at least comes with better music, better drinks than Mt Dew, and better action. Also, when washing cat peed clothing sometimes they need a few washings, unless it's a really nasty concentrate marking which, if not caught and washed immediately, might as well be permanent. I kinda miss that hoodie.

Also, the lot of you sound sheltered from the real depravity out there. Next you're going to tell me how clean the bathrooms were at your punk shows. Trust me, there's nightmares out there, and they are very real.

Quote from: Opaopajr;875502Also, the lot of you sound sheltered from the real depravity out there.

I try to avoid it.

Quote from: Opaopajr;875502Next you're going to tell me how clean the bathrooms were at your punk shows.

Well it depends, clock, steam, diesel, or cyber?

In real life, I have very little in the way of a sense of smell, so am protected against most forms of Body Odour. However, some people have managed to get through my natural defences and have almost overwhelmed me.

I'm not saying that this is common, I've only had it a handful of times, but it has happened.

At Conventions, I have to get "Geeked-Up" in order to interact properly with fellow gamers, as the geek quotient in the gaming groups that I have played in has been relatively low, myself excluded of course.

So we agree, then? Catpiss men (or whatever) really exist. No they are not everywhere and no they do not define our gaming culture. And yeah, shouldn't be calling them autistic. Glad to hear.

Gormenghast, thanks for getting us back to eroticism. Do you think you're deliberately altering your campaign based on the presence of kids at the gaming table, or is this what you'd do anyway?

Quote from: soltakss;875522At Conventions, I have to get "Geeked-Up" in order to interact properly with fellow gamers, as the geek quotient in the gaming groups that I have played in has been relatively low, myself excluded of course.

I have no idea why, but the thought of getting "Geeked-up" made me picture some weird nerd-variation on the transformation scenes from Bibleman.

Quote from: TristramEvans;875530I have no idea why, but the thought of getting "Geeked-up" made me picture some weird nerd-variation on the transformation scenes from Bibleman.

I thought it described a violent encounter with a roaming band of geeks.

Quote from: Willie the Duck;875529Gormenghast, thanks for getting us back to eroticism. Do you think you're deliberately altering your campaign based on the presence of kids at the gaming table, or is this what you'd do anyway?

It is intentional. With a young girl at the table, I tend to go with whimsical and light hearted adventure elements.

(The girl's father is the only other GM in the extended group here, and he actually does include erotic elements in his campaigns. Far more than I would use, with less grimness and more sexiness. But now he can't use that stuff, because his daughter is interested in gaming. )

Looking over my online games, I would say sex-related content shows up, but most of is not what I would call erotic.

RE erotic stuff in OSR, I have never noticed much in the way of this, except I suppose for some cheesecake illos.

Cheesecake fantasy illos are not really my thing, although I certainly don't object to the occasional odalisque. Chainkinis can be humorous, but they don't get my blood pumping.
This has squat to do with politics. It is a matter of taste.
(I mention politics not to start a tangent but just to make it clear I am in no way an "SJW." )

As ever, YMMV.

Quote from: BedrockBrendan;875531I thought it described a violent encounter with a roaming band of geeks.

I was thinking pick out the right t-shirt with quote, matching dice bag, heavy rimmed glasses, and pocket protector with mechanical pencils.

It occurs to me that maybe all of classic D&D is one huge metaphor for the fears of pre adolescent boys about sex ...

"You arrive in front of the Mysterious Chasm armed with your trusty +2 Phallic Symbol. What do you do?"

"Check for traps!"

Quote from: Bren;875545I was thinking pick out the right t-shirt with quote, matching dice bag, heavy rimmed glasses, and pocket protector with mechanical pencils.

We been spendin' most our life livin' in s geek's paradise... Fought a Tarrasque once or twice, living in a geek's paradise....

Quote from: Nexus;875550We been spendin' most our life livin' in s geek's paradise... Fought a Tarrasque once or twice, living in a geek's paradise....

Shouldn't that be pair-o'-dice?

Quote from: Opaopajr;875502Also, the lot of you sound sheltered from the real depravity out there. Next you're going to tell me how clean the bathrooms were at your punk shows. Trust me, there's nightmares out there, and they are very real.

Well, maybe it helps that I can't play in a location with cats, due to an allergy. After reading your account, I'm no longer as sorry about it as I was before:D!
But the truth remains, I haven't met an individual with such smell in gaming:).

Quote from: Willie the Duck;875529So we agree, then? Catpiss men (or whatever) really exist. No they are not everywhere and no they do not define our gaming culture. And yeah, shouldn't be calling them autistic. Glad to hear.

I basically agree with that - but keep in mind, they remain a legend to me. I'll just choose to trust the accounts here and assume it's a legend with a real, smelly foundation;).

Quote from: Gormenghast;875544It is intentional. With a young girl at the table, I tend to go with whimsical and light hearted adventure elements.

(The girl's father is the only other GM in the extended group here, and he actually does include erotic elements in his campaigns. Far more than I would use, with less grimness and more sexiness. But now he can't use that stuff, because his daughter is interested in gaming. )

That might be me after a few years:p. Well, I'm going to revert to much less erotic content if that happens.

QuoteLooking over my online games, I would say sex-related content shows up, but most of is not what I would call erotic.

Some online games have more of it, some less.

QuoteRE erotic stuff in OSR, I have never noticed much in the way of this, except I suppose for some cheesecake illos.

I own and have read Alpha Blue. Normally I don't find sex workers exactly erotic, but it sure can be used to add erotic content that doesn't include monetary transactions, too:).

Quote from: markfitz;875547It occurs to me that maybe all of classic D&D is one huge metaphor for the fears of pre adolescent boys about sex ...

"You arrive in front of the Mysterious Chasm armed with your trusty +2 Phallic Symbol. What do you do?"

"Check for traps!"

Yeah, lots of people have suggested that. The problem is, the creators weren't exactly pre-adolescent, as far as I can tell;).

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;870797I'm a big fan of the "you hear a knock on the door.  It's her.  You invite her to come in.  She closes the door and with a gentle tug on the tie of her gown it falls to the floor and she stands before you nude, smiling.  Fade to black."

Fade to Black

Absolutely Fade to Back, do not pass go.

Now what a group of consenting adult gamers choose to do in their own campaigns behind closed doors is absolutely 100% their business and have at it if you want to play that way. Cultural Libertarianism 4 Life!

But for Me

I personally find it uncomfortable at best and honestly downright creepy. It's bordering on watching or looking at porn with your adult friends. Something I have ZERO % interest in doing.

I'm the same way with portraying rape or any sort of sexual violence. I just pretend it doesn't exist. I play games for escape and heroic deeds, not to plum the depths of sexual depravity so I can feel "deep".

Even Half/Orc raise a "problematic" issue of rape. I just don't have em in my  Fantasy games. Is it silly maybe, but I just have no desire to roleplay that sort of thing or idea.

I can remember a gamer friend of a friend recounting a story of D&D to me when he found out I liked Old School D&D. He and his party managed to disarm and capture a Bug Bear in some dungeon, and proceeded to interogate him for info on the Dungeon Boss Villain. The Bug Bear wouldn't talk so the guys character took a spear and proceeded to rape the bugbear with the blunt end while the other party members held the Bug Bear down. WTF, I mean I can still remember the look on my face, and his face when he told me that. To him it was still one of his most cherished and hilarious D&D stories. To me all I could think is what the fuck is wrong with you sociopath?!?. Not to mention where the fuck was the GM during all this. I'd have had the BugBear go feral and tear him apart for suggesting something so sick, let alone just say no you sick fuck you're not going to do that. Player Fiat my ass, the GM is LAW.

I'll take Slavery, Murder, Gore, Blood, Beading, Demonic Possession, Animal  Sacrifice, Human Sacrifice in spades over a single rape or sex scene being acted out at the game table.

I'm not a big fan of playing Villain characters either so that probably has allot to do with it. I prefer my villains in Fantasy at least to be a bit more back and white. They don't have to be moustache twirling clowns but I prefer less moral ambiguity about the players killing them than the average story gamer most likely does.

Grey Hero's like Han Solo are great, as at heart they are still good guys. Reformed Serial Killers like "Dexter" Even when he is killing other psychopaths not so much.

Punisher and Judge Dredd yes
Dexter and Tragic Vampires not so much,.

Quote from: Gwarh;875749Reformed Serial Killers like "Dexter" Even when he is killing other psychopaths not so much.

Punisher and Judge Dredd yes
Dexter and Tragic Vampires not so much,.

:hmm: The Punisher is vigilante Judge Dredd. And the only difference between those two serial killers and Dexter is they wear uniforms and prefer to shoot people dead quick rather than stab 'em slow.

Got to agree with you on vampires though. I'd much rather play a vampire hunter.