Quote from: S'mon;873706Me neither (even the cute females). Two things:

1. Seems to me you can have 'eroticism' without graphic sex scenes.

This point cannot be stated enough.

Quote from: S'mon;8737061. Seems to me you can have 'eroticism' without graphic sex scenes.

That's an amen from me too. Sex and relationships can drive characters, without going into graphic detail about the actual act.

I actually think that eroticism can inform mood and atmosphere, and enrich the game even on a metaphorical level. After all, part of the threat of certain monsters and villains is clearly erotic. Innocence threatened by forbidden knowledge, purity at risk, the body horror of any creature that spawns more monsters. These are all ways that the erotic can make its way into D&D.

Think of the Alien movies. There's almost no actual sex in them, but the whole design of the aliens and their life cycle is dripping with darkly erotic content.

As for something like World of Darkness games, it would severely limit their appeal if the implicit sexuality of them is neutered. But I realise they're not what we're talking about.

Still, when I think of the kind of dark fantasy that most appeals to me, it is inseparable from some degree of erotic content.

Quote from: AsenRG;873702So, the description wasn't of a real case, but just a cheap way to score rhetorical points.  Gotcha.

It is based on people I have seen in the north american roleplaying scene (and a couple here too, I don't want to suggest that the Uruguayan RPG scene is totally devoid of socially-retarded willfully disgusting nerds), including people I had played with at cons or my old University club.

On the other hand, you ARE trying to score cheap points here by pretending that such people don't exist or aren't a (disgusting) problem in our hobby.

Quote from: RPGPundit;874222It is based on people I have seen in the north american roleplaying scene (and a couple here too, I don't want to suggest that the Uruguayan RPG scene is totally devoid of socially-retarded willfully disgusting nerds), including people I had played with at cons or my old University club.

Really? I mean, it's not a myth?
I've never before known anyone who has played with them, instead of meeting one in a gaming store. For some reason, I've always assumed those people didn't get any actual play.

QuoteOn the other hand, you ARE trying to score cheap points here by pretending that such people don't exist or aren't a (disgusting) problem in our hobby.

You could accuse me of trying that, if I'd ever seen even one that fits all three criteria of being over 155 kgs, semi-or-more autistic, willfully disgusting, and actually being a roleplayer.
I've never seen in person any roleplayer that fits even two of those, and actually only know two people in the whole Bulgarian scene that approach the weight requirement.

Quote from: AsenRG;874287You could accuse me of trying that, if I'd ever seen even one that fits all three criteria of being over 155 kgs, semi-or-more autistic, willfully disgusting, and actually being a roleplayer.

Hmm, yeah - I've seen some fat players, one of whom was physically unpleasant ('disgusting' would be a stretch). But I think zero overlap between them and the players with any signs of autism spectrum.

Well since Pundit has taken us off into wacky off-topic land...

Out of all the groups I have DMed or played with I can say that a couple of my players were heavy. But of those only two were overweight. At least three of my players have been well over 6ft tall. One of whom could swing a claymore easily. Of the two that were overweight one was wheelchair bound.

This carries over to gaming cons. Ive seen a few mildly overweight attendees but never anyone really out there.

Never seen anyone autistic. And while I can say a few were vulgar. None were willfully disgusting. So no. doesnt jibe for gaming.

On the other hand at a non-Gaming con I was at Alan Dean Foster was about ready to kill. Not to mention some nasty sniping from various circuit artists at various overweight attendees.

When I ran the 4e Encounters for the last leg of Essentials, we had a local player who was clearly Asperger's.  As in the inability to recognize basic social ques that everyone else seems to know.  He was loud, but well meaning.  But he wasn't all that overweight, and he was fastidiously clean.

About what I think of the mosquitos in Vladivostok. It has fuck-all to do with me, so why should I care? People play what they want to play.

I've had a few autistic players, mostly in online play. No morbidly obese players but some overweight ones (I'm no slender willow myself). Only one that seems deliberately gross as far personal habits went and I heard of one more locally so I always though the "Cat Piss Man" thing was somewhat overblown. Have had players that have been rough around the edge as far as social graces go but that's going to happen with any large group of people.

Quote from: flyingmice;874338About what I think of the mosquitos in Vladivostok. It has fuck-all to do with me, so why should I care? People play what they want to play.

You're deprotagonizing the mosquitos of Vladivostok.

Quote from: Opaopajr;874347You're deprotagonizing the mosquitos of Vladivostok.

That's a risk I am willing to run!

-clash

Quote from: AsenRG;874287Really? I mean, it's not a myth?
I've never before known anyone who has played with them, instead of meeting one in a gaming store. For some reason, I've always assumed those people didn't get any actual play.


You could accuse me of trying that, if I'd ever seen even one that fits all three criteria of being over 155 kgs, semi-or-more autistic, willfully disgusting, and actually being a roleplayer.
I've never seen in person any roleplayer that fits even two of those, and actually only know two people in the whole Bulgarian scene that approach the weight requirement.

Hmm, I hadn't noticed you were from Bulgaria.  It is likely different there than in north america (just like it's different in Uruguay).  Let me assure you that in the U.S. and Canada we have several people fitting one or combinations of all of those in the Roleplaying scene.

Quote from: S'mon;874291Hmm, yeah - I've seen some fat players, one of whom was physically unpleasant ('disgusting' would be a stretch). But I think zero overlap between them and the players with any signs of autism spectrum.

Does it really matter if it's all those traits in ONE person or that there are many people who have one or more of those traits in the hobby?!!

Quote from: RPGPundit;874222It is based on people I have seen in the north american roleplaying scene (and a couple here too, I don't want to suggest that the Uruguayan RPG scene is totally devoid of socially-retarded willfully disgusting nerds), including people I had played with at cons or my old University club.

I have seen such people talked about and complained about much more often than I have actually seen them.  I have seen a handful even at cons.  I never had one in any of the groups I played with.  I have never met one at a store with public play.  They exist but they don't seem to be nearly as prevalent as people make them out to be.

If I could game only with players on the autistic spectrum I would.