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WotC just lost an unknown designer because of "racism"

Started by Scrivener of Doom, July 04, 2020, 11:26:36 AM

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Any literally who who shows up as a contractor for a company expecting to fix the systemic persecution in an industry that has never persecuted anything is destined for grave disappointment.  Well, I say that, but given WotC's present stances, they seem quite on board with claiming basically anything was a systemic persecution, so I'm a little startled he wasn't better-received.

Mistwell

Quote from: Blink_Dog;1138058If WoTC wants to be bankrupt like the comics industry I would say stay the course. If they want to recover and have a fresh start in the future they should stop producing products that require these types of employees. Long term unemployment has the effect of making people more grateful and less cunty when they finally do get a job. Personally I hope they go bankrupt, then someone more deserving could buy the rights cheap.

In the alternate world from which you post, do Kangaroos still have tails? If not, do they fall down a lot?

Mistwell

Quote from: FelixGamingX1;1138100I don't know if they are or not. But I heard most companies within the US must hire and maintain a small percentage of non whites in their work force. I believe you get tax breaks for it, I could be wrong

Wow. No, this is not accurate.

The Exploited.

We already knew that WoTC are no angels.

But this employee was terribly naive and then seems to feel very 'entitled' just because he is a non-binary black guy. As Simlasa said, you'd really need to here the whole side of the story from some other employee.
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Razor 007

Quote from: Mistwell;1138172Wow. No, this is not accurate.

If you bid on federal contracts in the US, it is a requirement that you hire minority employees.
I need you to roll a perception check.....

Steven Mitchell

Quote from: Razor 007;1138222If you bid on federal contracts in the US, it is a requirement that you hire minority employees.

Right.  But that is where this is getting off subject, because none of those rules will apply to WotC or any other RPG company.

Brad

Quote from: Steven Mitchell;1138226Right.  But that is where this is getting off subject, because none of those rules will apply to WotC or any other RPG company.

WotC DOES know virtue signaling allows them to avoid the SJW Twitter mobs, so even though there's no law, I am certain they at least want the public perception that they have the "right" number of minority employees. How this in any way helps them make better games is beyond my capacity to comprehend.
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GeekyBugle

Quote from: Brad;1138228WotC DOES know virtue signaling allows them to avoid the SJW Twitter mobs, so even though there's no law, I am certain they at least want the public perception that they have the "right" number of minority employees. How this in any way helps them make better games is beyond my capacity to comprehend.

Plus I bet they do have a commissar of inclusivity.
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Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

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Steven Mitchell

Quote from: Brad;1138228WotC DOES know virtue signaling allows them to avoid the SJW Twitter mobs, so even though there's no law, I am certain they at least want the public perception that they have the "right" number of minority employees. How this in any way helps them make better games is beyond my capacity to comprehend.

Oh, I agree with that.  I could just see the conversation heading to the edge.  I don't know where the line is in the fog, but I know it is nearby.  I'd hate for our first banning under the new policy to be on this topic, of all things.

Tyberious Funk

I can't (or won't) comment on the issues of race and gender, but I can definitely comment on what it's like working for a corporation.  

Firstly...

QuoteLiking a tweet or post, RTing, or even following people who speak ill of WotC can lose you your job in an instant. That's why you never see it happen.

In every single company I've ever worked for, this has been the case.  If you have an issue, you are expected to deal with it internally, not by publicly tweeting about it.  No company... NONE, wants to basically be paying someone to shitcan them publicly.  Even more so if you are a contractor -- it reeks of arrogance.  But there's a further lesson Orion is going to have to learn the hard way... your future employers don't want to hear you shitcanning previous jobs either.  It's a golden rule in interviews -- no matter how much you hated your previous job/boss, don't trash them.  Because you don't want someone contemplating hiring you to be thinking "Gee, if they're so willing to talk trash about their past boss, what are they likely to say about me?"  No one will think you are a warrior or a champion for justice, they'll just think you are a trouble maker.

QuoteI worked hard for a very long time. I got a lot of smiles and vocal support, but it was followed by inaction and being ignored. My coworkers were frustrated for me, and still are now. I confided in them often, cried on shoulders on a few occasions.

No offense, but working on contract for less than a year doesn't really constitute working "hard for a very long time".  WotC has been around for 30 years, and Hasbro has been around for almost 100 years.  A single contractor, working for 9 months isn't going to change embedded cultures in organisations like that.

QuoteI found out that some of my work was stolen, which destroyed me. It lined up with a project they were going to do and I had sent it in to someone in leadership months ago. The project was announced and this person who contributed "forgot" that we had a meeting where I gave them my ideas, and then a follow up document the day after. I knew nothing was going to be done about it. Someone else told me that the person said sorry that they forgot. That's it.

Having had managers pass off my work as their own on a fairly regular occasion, I know how much this sucks.  It's also a pretty regular occurrence in the corporate world.  IMHO, the best solution is to just keep producing good quality work.  Again, trashing your former employer publicly won't really help.
 

mightybrain

Quote from: Brad;1138228WotC DOES know virtue signaling allows them to avoid the SJW Twitter mobs

Except that it doesn't. QED. They now know for a fact that it doesn't. This isn't even the first time that it hasn't. The question is whether this will change their strategy at all.