What are the 4e fanboys saying now?

crkrueger · February 13, 2011, 03:04:50 AM

Quote from: Seanchai;440002So you believe that a program that brings in an unspecific "few" new gamers at one store is going to have a noteworthy impact on D&D and/or gaming?

Really?
Seanchai

Nope. Of course I never actually said anything remotely like that, so you really shouldn't be surprised at my answer. You mentioned earlier that...

Quote from: Seanchai;440002I have yet to encounter (get it?) or hear of an Encounters player who hasn't played D&D or an RPG before.

All I said was, that there were some in one of the larger FLGS's here. That was it. For all I know, the Encounters experience may have led them to swear off RPGs forever.

As I mentioned in another post, if WotC wanted to have "noteworthy impact", they should have gotten Encounters events going in Borders and Barnes and Noble.

Seanchai · February 13, 2011, 12:53:21 PM

Quote from: CRKrueger;440009As I mentioned in another post, if WotC wanted to have "noteworthy impact", they should have gotten Encounters events going in Borders and Barnes and Noble.

No. I've been in Borders when they've had their special events. Watching an author sit there at a table at the front of the store, begging people with his eyes to actually come up and talk with him, doesn't exactly inspire confidence in Borders or their process...

Seanchai

Benoist · February 13, 2011, 01:33:44 PM

Isn't Borders in Chapter 11 right now?

crkrueger · February 13, 2011, 02:14:06 PM

Quote from: Seanchai;440050No. I've been in Borders when they've had their special events. Watching an author sit there at a table at the front of the store, begging people with his eyes to actually come up and talk with him, doesn't exactly inspire confidence in Borders or their process...

Authors go to Colorado to sell books? Since when?

I don't know what Borders is like in the reading capital of Colorado, but in both Northern and Southern California, Borders are quite busy, children's events, music, book clubs. On the weekend there's always something going on at the cafe tables. Different culture I guess.

crkrueger · February 13, 2011, 02:21:45 PM

Quote from: Benoist;440055Isn't Borders in Chapter 11 right now?

Yeah, they dropped the whole internet ball. No e-store for e-readers, they had Amazon do their orders, just had no business plan for it. Regentrification is bringing back the small, intimate bookstore for upscale clients in a lot of cities, so they're getting squeezed at both ends.

Supposedly they're gonna shut down 1/3 to 1/2 of their stores (probably in fly-over states), but without a good e-reader policy (like say, letting you buy and download e-books from within the store like B&N but let you do it multiple formats to support all e-readers) they're probably going to have to close up shop.

And, from what I understand, Barnes and Noble is doing just fine, so WotC could run events there if they wanted. :rolleyes:

Abyssal Maw · February 13, 2011, 02:55:23 PM

You can totally run Encounters at Borders or Barnes and Noble or any public location. It's dependent on volunteers.

http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Event.aspx?x=dnd/4new/event/dndencounters

if you want to *be* a volunteer talk to a store manager.

jeff37923 · February 13, 2011, 03:02:30 PM

Quote from: Abyssal Maw;440064You can totally run Encounters at Borders or Barnes and Noble or any public location. It's dependent on volunteers.

http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Event.aspx?x=dnd/4new/event/dndencounters

if you want to *be* a volunteer talk to a store manager.

Not a slam on 4E, but a lot depends on the store manager. Some do not want you in there running a game, even if it is good advertising for the books they are trying to sell.

I've tried several times to run games at our local bookstores and the managers at the time just didn't want people hanging around gaming. I have not tried lately, though.

Seanchai · February 13, 2011, 03:13:43 PM

Quote from: CRKrueger;440057I don't know what Borders is like in the reading capital of Colorado...

If you think people don't read in Colorado, apparently you don't know shit.

Seanchai

crkrueger · February 13, 2011, 08:41:10 PM

Quote from: Seanchai;440072If you think people don't read in Colorado, apparently you don't know shit.

I know you really, really hate Essentials, to the point where you're getting silly and going all nitpick aggro. Why not feed the troll? It's Sunday.

Seanchai · February 13, 2011, 11:18:24 PM

Quote from: CRKrueger;440108I know you really, really hate Essentials, to the point where you're getting silly and going all nitpick aggro. Why not feed the troll? It's Sunday.

http://www.ranker.com/list/most-literate-cities-in-america/info-lists

Seanchai

Esgaldil · February 13, 2011, 11:53:14 PM

"A list of the most literate American cities. These famous cities in American history are known as the most literate cities in the US, as most literate American people live here. This list includes all the US cities with highest literacy rate. Overall, these are the American cities with most literate citizens. These cities can tackle even the hardest books to read."

Thanks for that, Seanchai. That made my day.

Doom · February 14, 2011, 12:03:42 AM

Yowza

Seanchai · February 14, 2011, 01:37:29 AM

Quote from: Esgaldil;440134Thanks for that, Seanchai. That made my day.

Yeah. I couldn't quickly find a link to the work on which it was based, so...

Seanchai

crkrueger · February 14, 2011, 02:47:47 AM

Quote from: Seanchai;440145Yeah. I couldn't quickly find a link to the work on which it was based, so...

You guys are slippin'...